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Surgeons transplant pig kidney into a patient

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Re: Surgeons transplant pig kidney into a patient

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If successful, this is great. However, I would like to see how long this lasts. I can recall seeing similar stories with either a rejection at the end, or some negative outcome for the patient.

The hearts lasted weeks, about 2 months. The test primate for the kidney lasted 2 years, which would be impressive.

How many times can you receive a transplant for the same organ? Does scar tissue for at the transplant site?

Re: Surgeons transplant pig kidney into a patient

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The hearts lasted weeks, about 2 months. The test primate for the kidney lasted 2 years, which would be impressive.

How many times can you receive a transplant for the same organ? Does scar tissue for at the transplant site?

Speaking for liver transplants, they are a many hour traumatic affair. My daughter lost and received more than her entire blood volume during hers. Initial recovery is extremely immunosuppressed and some of the drugs we had to handle with masks and gloves, and had 4x a day medication schedules. So you couldn't burn through pig livers I believe getting them swapped frequently. My daughter received her liver at age 8 months by the way and is now 19 yrs old.

Re: Surgeons transplant pig kidney into a patient

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It doesn’t mention the most important thing. Does he have to take immunosuppressants? If so is it for the rest of his life.

Anyone who gets a transplant needs to take immunosuppressants for the rest of their life (except some older patients with liver transplants many years post transplant). In general for many patients, immunosuppressants have relatively little impact on daily life. Source: liver transplant recipient.

Many immunosuppressed patients will disagree. Viruses hit harder and can often require antibiotics (not a good idea long term). And Covid/Flu/Noro is a constant risk to immunosuppressed people.

Source: son of a transplant patient.

Re: Surgeons transplant pig kidney into a patient

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The hearts lasted weeks, about 2 months. The test primate for the kidney lasted 2 years, which would be impressive.

How many times can you receive a transplant for the same organ? Does scar tissue for at the transplant site?

For renal transplants - not sure if there’s an upper limit, although each subsequent transplant becomes a more difficult match (as antibodies build up) and eventually may have to remove previous transplants. Generally renal transplants go in the right or left groin with native kidneys left in place. If one transplant fails, a transplant to the opposite side may be attempted, or a different location (such as intra-abdominal). Otherwise, will need to explant the first transplant

Re: Surgeons transplant pig kidney into a patient

#55

quite impressive, there must have been an insane amount of work that went into this the forecasting market should capitalize on if someone dies who is it or who dies first? this guy or the neuralink patient

Alternatively, let's wish the best to both of them.

That merely means go long on them :)

Re: Surgeons transplant pig kidney into a patient

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I didn’t realize you had to take lifelong immunosuppressants with human organs as well. That makes this indistinguishable, provided it keeps working.

I'm curious, when did you think patients had to take immunosuppressants?

There's also a number of autoimmune diseases out there...

Re: Surgeons transplant pig kidney into a patient

#59

It's hard for me to imagine the bravery it takes to sign up for this -- even if you're dying already, something like this is unlikely to result in a peaceful final days on earth (between being a science experiment, the media, optional major traumatic surgery, etc...). The folks undergoing this are incredibly admirable.

The alternative is certain death so not a lot to choose from

Re: Surgeons transplant pig kidney into a patient

#60

It's hard for me to imagine the bravery it takes to sign up for this -- even if you're dying already, something like this is unlikely to result in a peaceful final days on earth (between being a science experiment, the media, optional major traumatic surgery, etc...). The folks undergoing this are incredibly admirable.

The alternative is certain death so not a lot to choose from

All death is certain. And taxes.
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