Probably should take down the food giants first.
U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone monopoly
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Re: U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone monopoly
#202> The Justice Department, which began its investigation into Apple in 2019, chose to build a broader and more ambitious case than any other regulator has brought against the company. As I was reading the specific charges detailed in the article, I was thinking this case seems like a stretch and will be difficult to prove. Apple will argue that security and/or performance reasons drove their decisions related to brows…
> Apple will argue that security and/or performance reasons drove their decisions related to browser choice, messaging, and Apple wallet Then why, for the sake of the argument, do they allow third party browsers, messaging and payments on MacOS ?!? Apple makes it sound like MacOS is horribly insecure.
Performance is less of an issue on computers because battery life isn’t as much of a concern. Also, they allow other messaging and payments on iOS just like they do on MacOS. They just don’t offer the unique payment chip access on iOS to third parties.
Re: U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone monopoly
#203There are too many quotes 'from Apple management' in the compliant that need context. Something doesn't add up. https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/24492020/doj-apple-an... Either that, or Apple's management has become truly rotten. That would be the saddest realization.
I started reading it but the line spacing is just so infuriating…
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#204Apple getting sued in the US and EU is really about finding an equilibrium between 3 stakeholders - Apple, Users & Developers. The status quo favors Apple and Users. Developers led by companies like Epic just want a bigger piece of the pie. That's it.
The status quo does not favor users.
How does it favor users that you cannot sign up for Netflix on iOS?
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#205iMessage is the most egregious monopolistic tool in Apple's garden. If the DOJ accomplishes nothing else besides forcing Apple to open up iMessage, it will be a victory. The lock-in of having functional communication with your friends and family is insane. Take that away and it becomes almost a no-brainier for people to consider competing devices. And no, nobody with an iPhone is interested in switching to whatever m…
It already works with SMS, though. You can choose to use 3rd party apps like WhatsApp. I fail to see how users are meaningfully "locked-in" any more than an android
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#206While I hate losing the feeling that the AppStore and iOS security policy make my device less at risk I sure am tired of not having chromium and Fortnite on my iPad. I’m also torn on how the current locked down state of affairs is the only thing keeping chromium and v8 from achieving 100% market share.
Re: U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone monopoly
#207> The Justice Department, which began its investigation into Apple in 2019, chose to build a broader and more ambitious case than any other regulator has brought against the company. As I was reading the specific charges detailed in the article, I was thinking this case seems like a stretch and will be difficult to prove. Apple will argue that security and/or performance reasons drove their decisions related to brows…
How do you think they would spin Messages interoperability as security or performance?
Security: there’s no cross platform E2E messaging standard they could have adopted. Given that the DoJ is already breathing down their neck for working with Google on search, using Google’s RCS extensions and servers might also be problematic.
I don’t think the government could force them to adopt RCS without new legislation or bring iMessage to other platforms.
Re: U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone monopoly
#208> The Justice Department, which began its investigation into Apple in 2019, chose to build a broader and more ambitious case than any other regulator has brought against the company. As I was reading the specific charges detailed in the article, I was thinking this case seems like a stretch and will be difficult to prove. Apple will argue that security and/or performance reasons drove their decisions related to brows…
They may or may not prevail, but in the meantime they will likely have to slam the brakes on any closed feature developments. That alone is good for consumers.
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#209I understand the evil practices of Apple to lock you up in their walled garden such as iMessage, easy sync between the devices etc. But, ultimately, wouldn't the choice of buying those products in the consumer's hand?
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#210I assert it is trivial to not buy Apple products, easy to make alternatives to Apple products and easy to buy feature equivalent devices to Apple products. In lieu of this what is the problem? If the government has a problem why not say any code should be able to be run on any device? Honestly I’m curious - what’s the problem? There are android phones that are superior to iPhones and let you run anything you want. Wh…
The most compelling argument I can see is that due to its market share businesses cannot avoid dealing with the app store and it's fees.
But they can though, there are plenty of apps that are android exclusive.