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Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by iamjake648 »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #21
iamjake648 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eau Claire, WI - a pretty small town has at least three DCFC - EA, Tesla & a local electric company plus tons of level 2 all over. > I'm confused at why this was included in the regulation The WI GOP. At least you can pay by the kWh in WI now instead of by the minute with this law.

Eau Claire is the biggest settlement at the junction point where Minneapolis travelers either go to Wausau and the UP, or to Milwaukee/Chicago.

Yea I guess I'm just surprised OP hasn't seen any. The junction point explains the fast chargers, but the Level 2 would presumably be used primarily by locals.

I mean even middle of nowhere cities like Ellsworth are getting DCFC - granted at a dealership, but still it's happening!

https://www.plugshare.com/location/560842

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by phone8675309 »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #41
vkou wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A wealthy society is not one where poor people own cars, it's one where they can afford to not to.

Go live in a city like Milwaukee then? 85% of the land area of Wisconsin has less than 100 people per square mile - it isn't clear to me at all how even the richest society could blanket that area with useful public transit.

Public transport in Milwaukee is a fucking joke

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by margalabargala »

m463 wrote: post #24
throwaway48476 wrote: post #18

My city spent a stupid amount of money to build 13 slow chargers across the city based on public feedback. I have zero faith that this will fare any better. The best EV charger is the one installed in the home. If the government actually wanted to spur adoption it would be through easing permitting and creating boilerplate contract language for apartment and condo chargers.

I tried traveling with a nissan leaf ev (24kwh) a couple years ago, and it was COMPLETELY impractical. It was just a stupid leap of faith with giant portions of luck and silly time wasting. 3rd party charging services suck. They have few chargers, they have few stalls and terrible information about them. (The worst was blink, virtually always broken) And then I tried a couple years later with tesla, and it was a comp…

> I tried traveling with a nissan leaf ev (24kwh) a couple years ago, and it was COMPLETELY impractical

A Nissan Leaf, especially the version with the smallest battery, is a commuter car. It's meant to drive you around within your city, never being too far from a charger. It's not meant to travel around with. Your experience isn't a Tesla vs Nissan experience, nor even a Tesla vs non-Tesla experience, nor even a electric vs gas car experience. It's a "travelling long distance in a 100-mile-range vehicle" experience.

Nissan, and most other car manufacturers, make cars that have much larger batteries and can go much further. Even most Leaf models can go much further than your 24kwh model. The charging experience is much better when your range is sufficient that you don't have to stop and charge every 90 minutes, and thus have a better diversity of chargers available.

One might similarly try to travel in a gas-powered golf cart and complain about how impractical it is.

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by IncreasePosts »

phone8675309 wrote: post #72
IncreasePosts wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go live in a city like Milwaukee then? 85% of the land area of Wisconsin has less than 100 people per square mile - it isn't clear to me at all how even the richest society could blanket that area with useful public transit.

Public transport in Milwaukee is a fucking joke

I agree for the most part, but at least it is a tractable problem, unlike providing public transport for the entirety of Wisconsin including Milwaukee

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by nunez »

sib wrote: post #31
nunez wrote: post #17

GOOD! I wish anti-EV states would follow suit. EV chargers are a landmine for business/income taxes. Unlike a gas station, people have to wait at least 15 minutes to charge their vehicle. You could have TikTok-theaters (theaters that show trending videos across TikTok), pop-ups, restaurants, etc.

>> EV chargers are a landmine for business/income taxes I think you mean a goldmine for business & income taxes?

lol, i sure did.
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