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Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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GOOD! I wish anti-EV states would follow suit. EV chargers are a landmine for business/income taxes. Unlike a gas station, people have to wait at least 15 minutes to charge their vehicle. You could have TikTok-theaters (theaters that show trending videos across TikTok), pop-ups, restaurants, etc.

>> EV chargers are a landmine for business/income taxes

I think you mean a goldmine for business & income taxes?

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Distinct issue. You’re serving transport infra, you do what the landlord says or make way for another business that will. People travel on Sundays and want to eat, regardless of your belief system. Totally different than EV charging infra uptime and availability.

Regardless of their believe system, having a guaranteed day off every week is a nice perk in the fast food industry.

Not to mention Chick-fil-A is dang delicious.

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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A good first step to the chicken and egg problem. Living in Wisconsin I have never seen an electrical charging station. >Local government entities and state agencies would not be allowed to operate public charging stations but could run their own stations to charge their vehicles. I'm confused at why this was included in the regulation. Would companies really refuse to build stations without this stipulation? It remi…

>> A good first step to the chicken and egg problem. Living in Wisconsin I have never seen an electrical charging station.

There are approximately 35 active Tesla Supercharger stations with almost 300 individual chargers in Wisconsin. (More than I would have guessed...)

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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I hate how we are doubling down on car centric transportation. Whether it’s an ICE or EV. At the end of the day, it’s another car on the road. We take one step further with reducing or zeroing out tail pipe emissions. But take 3 steps backwards because department of ~~~highway~~~ transportation engineers feel the need to expand the expensive highways to accommodate increased demand. Ignoring all historical evidence t…

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Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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I hate how we are doubling down on car centric transportation. Whether it’s an ICE or EV. At the end of the day, it’s another car on the road. We take one step further with reducing or zeroing out tail pipe emissions. But take 3 steps backwards because department of ~~~highway~~~ transportation engineers feel the need to expand the expensive highways to accommodate increased demand. Ignoring all historical evidence t…

> We wAnT mOrE eXpEnSiVe RoAdS aNd hIgHwAyS aNd fReE pArKiNg GaRaGeS!!111 Yes, we want these things, because cars are overwhelmingly popular.

A wealthy society is not one where poor people own cars, it's one where they can afford to not to.

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless of their believe system, having a guaranteed day off every week is a nice perk in the fast food industry.

Not to mention Chick-fil-A is dang delicious.

You don't have to tell me twice. I'm a red member. haha

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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post #19

I hate how we are doubling down on car centric transportation. Whether it’s an ICE or EV. At the end of the day, it’s another car on the road. We take one step further with reducing or zeroing out tail pipe emissions. But take 3 steps backwards because department of ~~~highway~~~ transportation engineers feel the need to expand the expensive highways to accommodate increased demand. Ignoring all historical evidence t…

Not everyone is a socialist, or high density enthusiast. Personally I want the local government to only spend money in ways that result in people being more independent of a dense centre, that allows people to have more control over their immediate environment, and less impact from neibours. Roads and highways are worth the expense, I am not convinced when it comes to many other public infrastructure or services.

Socialism?

The current transportation system is largely through taxes and no not gas taxes. The way it works is that gas taxes and Federal funds are used to pay for interstates, arterials, and collector roads in almost every state and MSA in the US (pretty much any municipality big enough to apply for transportation grants.) The Federal government then helps fund road construction while states and consequently cities take the maintenance burden on. Maintenance itself is paid for through a combination of gas and state taxes along with Federal grants which are also based on other taxes.

The current system is already largely funded through taxation. It's just a matter of whether you think those taxes should be spent on creating and maintaining roads or whether you think they should be spent on transit. The closest to use taxes we have is the gas tax and the Federal one hasn't been raised since 1993 (state taxes differ per state and have been raised more recently.)

If you really want to move away from "socialism" or whatever, then make infrastructure toll based in the US. You'll find though that toll roads are highly unpopular.

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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post #19

I hate how we are doubling down on car centric transportation. Whether it’s an ICE or EV. At the end of the day, it’s another car on the road. We take one step further with reducing or zeroing out tail pipe emissions. But take 3 steps backwards because department of ~~~highway~~~ transportation engineers feel the need to expand the expensive highways to accommodate increased demand. Ignoring all historical evidence t…

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If you're talking 'destroying homes', consider how many neighborhoods have been torn down in their entirety to build city highway interchanges.

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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I'll note that this is part of FHWA and DOE's Alternate Fuel Corridors program, and many states applied for and got similar grants. https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/alternative_fuel_corrid... https://afdc.energy.gov/corridors Personally, I'm glad most of the money seems to be going to electric charging stations vs hydrogen and alternate hydrocarbon fueling stations. I would have preferred if the program had focus…

Look where Tesla puts their Superchargers [1]. There’s a reason they go at businesses instead of rest areas. If you site them where they are at the whim of politics, your infra is in constant political/bureaucratic peril. Businesses are incentivized to keep customers coming. Tangentially, the EV chargers are always out of order at O’hare and Midway airport parking lots. The Superchargers at the nearby gas station (OR…

> There’s a reason they go at businesses instead of rest areas.

With a few grandfathered exceptions, rest areas are prohibited from hosting private enterprise.

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