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God yes. It's still an uphill battle trying to convince my PC that I indeed want to have english-everything, although my PC is in europe. And boy do some websites go through hoops to be "clever"
I can kind of see why this is all the case: IP geolocating can be assumed to be generally useful, locale settings expressed by the browser and/or operating system could have been explicitly set or just left as what they came out of the box and thus unreliable. That said: There's a reason I am going to google.com and not google.co.jp, fucking thanks fucking good day fucking fuck.
IP Geolocation Is Twenty-Five Years Old
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I can kind of see why this is all the case: IP geolocating can be assumed to be generally useful, locale settings expressed by the browser and/or operating system could have been explicitly set or just left as what they came out of the box and thus unreliable. That said: There's a reason I am going to google.com and not google.co.jp, fucking thanks fucking good day fucking fuck.
It is a faulty assumption that IP geolocation is generally useful. It's often not, at all. The only context in which it might seem so is if you live on an English speaking continent. Otherwise, you're going to constantly misidentify people who live near borders, who use a VPN, or who have a different language preference than the offical language where their ISP is located. Locale settings expressed by the browser are…
From experience watching other people use computers, most people don't even know WTF "locale" is or anything even tangentially related. More than likely they just use whatever was configured by default, which most of the time makes sense for them but it's not a given.
Hence, it's unreliable.
IP geolocation on the other hand, you can at least assume the broad region where they are connecting from (VPNs and proxies aside).
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#63What's with the `?ref=sanjayparekh.com` query parameter? It's present on every link, is that some new tracking standard?
browsers started to limit referrer info a few years ago, this might be a workaround.
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#64No, IP Geolocation is not Twenty-Five Years old, you did not invent it, and you do not have a patent for it. Let's see what your patent is about: A method, computer program product and electronic device are provided for providing hyper-local geo-targeting based on validated, user-supplied geographic information, wherein the user's anonymity may be maintained. In particular, user-supplied geographic information may be…
Maybe it wasn't clear, but I left my operating role at the company in 2005 and we exited the company (it was acquired) in 2007. I don't think I ever said anyone stole my idea - because they never did. Others were in the same space (Maxmind included) but came up way after us - and we never pursued anyone in court for patent infringement. Why? Because we always wanted to win in the marketplace and not in the courtroom.…
The patent is absolutely trivial and would be thrown out in 5 minutes on the first objection. It does not even specify an implementation. Yes, patent language makes it sound important, but basically your "invention" can be summarized in one sentence. That's not an invention.
It's all bullshit. The company website now reads "50 patents on this!". It's a single patent, and yes, in the EU every copy of a patent is registered for each country and therefore you get 50 patent numbers.
Sorry to hurt your feelings, but as you are still insisting to be an inventor. You are not. You may be a great marketer if someone really paid you for this, but that's all.
(I also have "50" patents. But I would not brag about it, and my invention at least consists of a complex idea and 15 pages describing the implementation.)
And finally: The idea is illegal in the EU, where an IP is regarded as personal data, and you would need a written approval by every single user. And I have seen GDPR cookie popups, but never a sanjay popup.
Please just stop trying to impress tech people with a trivial sales person idea. You are abusing the patent system as a troll, and exactly this makes everyone in the industry hate it.
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Maybe it wasn't clear, but I left my operating role at the company in 2005 and we exited the company (it was acquired) in 2007. I don't think I ever said anyone stole my idea - because they never did. Others were in the same space (Maxmind included) but came up way after us - and we never pursued anyone in court for patent infringement. Why? Because we always wanted to win in the marketplace and not in the courtroom.…
I am very sure I am not paying for that data, and no-one else is. The patent is absolutely trivial and would be thrown out in 5 minutes on the first objection. It does not even specify an implementation. Yes, patent language makes it sound important, but basically your "invention" can be summarized in one sentence. That's not an invention. It's all bullshit. The company website now reads "50 patents on this!". It's a…
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MDN doesn't like it > Browsers set required values for this header according to their active user interface language. Users rarely change it, and such changes are not recommended because they may lead to fingerprinting. > The content of Accept-Language is often out of a user's control (when traveling, for instance). A user may also want to visit a page in a language different from the user interface language. https:/…
There are a million metrics that can be used for fingerprinting, the notion of avoiding language detection because fingerprinting seems a bit weak - it’s pretty hard to fingerprint me if I’m not willing to fumble your site to configure my language, and I assume for non English speakers hard locking browser resolution to 1920x1080 to prevent resolution fingerprinting would presumably be a more usable limitation. Edit:…
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#67And what a privacy nightmare, particularly with IPv6. When I see a map of my home IPv4, it's within a mile or two. With IPv6, it's on my block. But at least the companies I consult can block Chinese IP addresses from their public web presence. Chinese security will never think to stand up a server in the US or Europe. (Yes, I know it can help block noisy log generation).
ime geoip is at best able to identify the country, but yours are both scarily accurate, which isp?
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It is a faulty assumption that IP geolocation is generally useful. It's often not, at all. The only context in which it might seem so is if you live on an English speaking continent. Otherwise, you're going to constantly misidentify people who live near borders, who use a VPN, or who have a different language preference than the offical language where their ISP is located. Locale settings expressed by the browser are…
>Locale settings expressed by the browser are the user's explicit preference, From experience watching other people use computers, most people don't even know WTF "locale" is or anything even tangentially related. More than likely they just use whatever was configured by default, which most of the time makes sense for them but it's not a given. Hence, it's unreliable. IP geolocation on the other hand, you can at leas…
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>Locale settings expressed by the browser are the user's explicit preference, From experience watching other people use computers, most people don't even know WTF "locale" is or anything even tangentially related. More than likely they just use whatever was configured by default, which most of the time makes sense for them but it's not a given. Hence, it's unreliable. IP geolocation on the other hand, you can at leas…
That "default" is typically set by the language choice in the OS, which is exactly why it is reliable, because people understand language selectors just fine.
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browsers started to limit referrer info a few years ago, this might be a workaround.
Yeah it looks like that, but is this an official standard that's defined somewhere. I am not sure what to search for.