If Nintendo sued Yuzu because they were indirectly causing damage, then I can sue car makers for making air polution.
That's literally what happens though: https://www.reuters.com/business/sustainable-business/german...
First beta of Nintendo Switch emulator Suyu goes live
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#32Is the name intentionally a pun on sue you?
Reminds me of the Mac OS 7 sound “Sosumi” (so sue me!)
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#33If Nintendo sued Yuzu because they were indirectly causing damage, then I can sue car makers for making air polution.
VW got fined for that, not enough though and many others got out scot-free for similar rigging. A handful of cars (within regulations) don't pollute enough to cause harm but throw in thousands and thousand on narrow city roads and then do we blame the city planners?
Re: First beta of Nintendo Switch emulator Suyu goes live
#34The key bit: > Unlike Yuzu, the Suyu team does things differently in regards to Nintendo Switch emulation than their predecessors. Whereas Yuzu only required prod.keys, Suyu will also require you to dump your title.keys and firmware from a hacked Switch to run games. The devs also clarified that they are doing this for nonprofit (there's no Patreon) and do not condone piracy. We'll see how long it lasts...
Note that emulators for all(?) other Nintendo consoles remain available, and were available while the consoles were relevant. There is little Nintendo can do as long as the authors actively steer clear of guiding/condoning piracy or guiding/condoning certain types of DRM-bypass. It was to my knowledge Yuzu's stance on this particular matter that cost them the project, with Nintendo lawyers striking once they saw the…
Legally, there's actually quite a bit Nintendo can do, there's just always the risk of setting an undesirable precedent due to how few cases there are.
Yuzu's actions just elevated the likelihood of success to near 100% instead of 80-90%.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I might be wrong, but buy a game, dump the keys, sell game?
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Been gaming on PC (and a little bit with consoles) for 20 years and the hubbub about Nintendo closing Yuzu made me want to try it to see what's this all about.
And yes it's unbelievable how much better these games are on emulator, even if you only judge based on the games themselves.
I've been thoroughly captivated by TOTK and the worst I've had to ensure was mild microstutters which I didn't even bother to try and fix yet. Even that could have an easy solution.
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#36Why don't any of these major emulator teams build and release anonymously?
It can be a resume piece. Having been in these communities (server emulation instead of console) you find some insanely bright developers in them. A lot of them don't have a formal education background, but are willing to build out well thought out pieces of software. You just have to do the research on them if they tell you this is who they are, a lot of the times you can find out plenty about how they code and desi…
Not making sense.
These anon devs can still have socials.
Their resume is public, and you can reach them without revealing their identity.
Re: First beta of Nintendo Switch emulator Suyu goes live
#37The key bit: > Unlike Yuzu, the Suyu team does things differently in regards to Nintendo Switch emulation than their predecessors. Whereas Yuzu only required prod.keys, Suyu will also require you to dump your title.keys and firmware from a hacked Switch to run games. The devs also clarified that they are doing this for nonprofit (there's no Patreon) and do not condone piracy. We'll see how long it lasts...
> Suyu will also require you to dump your title.keys and firmware from a hacked Switch to run games It seems misleading to imply that you NEED to dump them from a real device? Can't you just provide the files found on the internet?
Well, that would be piracy. The Suyu team condemns that behavior.
Edited: condones -> condemns
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#38What's the big fuss when we still have Ryujinx ?
Re: First beta of Nintendo Switch emulator Suyu goes live
#39The key bit: > Unlike Yuzu, the Suyu team does things differently in regards to Nintendo Switch emulation than their predecessors. Whereas Yuzu only required prod.keys, Suyu will also require you to dump your title.keys and firmware from a hacked Switch to run games. The devs also clarified that they are doing this for nonprofit (there's no Patreon) and do not condone piracy. We'll see how long it lasts...
One argument I heard for the Yuzu settlement was to avoid discovery. There's speculation that Nintendo had the goods on them, and that discovery would expose them to more than the civil penalties they were facing. Nintendo has never been friendly to emulation, or most fan content in general, but there are protections for fair-use and this team appears to be building their work behind those, rather than playing fast a…
Yeahw if they used leaked games to optimize the emulator for release day, they would have much more to fear.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Suyu will also require you to dump your title.keys and firmware from a hacked Switch to run games It seems misleading to imply that you NEED to dump them from a real device? Can't you just provide the files found on the internet?
Well, that would be piracy. The Suyu team condemns that behavior. Edited: condones -> condemns
> The Suyu team condones that behavior.
You mean it does not?