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Re: Perian is shutting down

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Post by X-Istence »

Schlaefer wrote: post #33
X-Istence wrote: post #7

This is a shame. I absolutely love Perian and it has made it much easier to just play content without having to download VLC as well, and it just worked. One thing I have noticed is that support for MKV/VP8/WebM has always been pretty bad. It uses a LOT of CPU time and in general was really slow. When YouTube put me in the HTML 5 beta it was unbeknownst to me sending me WebM content because I had Perian installed and…

Performance and the youtube issues aside: afaik Perian is the only easy option to add WebM support to Safari. Are there any alternatives?

Perian is even recommended by Google on their WebM page when you start looking for a way to get WebM content on Mac OS X.

Re: Perian is shutting down

#52

Post by X-Istence »

thristian wrote: post #29
X-Istence wrote: post #7

This is a shame. I absolutely love Perian and it has made it much easier to just play content without having to download VLC as well, and it just worked. One thing I have noticed is that support for MKV/VP8/WebM has always been pretty bad. It uses a LOT of CPU time and in general was really slow. When YouTube put me in the HTML 5 beta it was unbeknownst to me sending me WebM content because I had Perian installed and…

Under the heading "Frequently Asked Questions" on the linked page, it says: Why does it take so long for MKV to load? QuickTime expects to know the location of every single frame in a movie in order to play it. This is easy with its native format, MOV/MP4, but more difficult for several others, including MKV. Perian has to read in the entire file in order for seeking and playback to work. That's probably (part of) th…

No, it is extremely slow and laggy AFTER I've downloaded the full content from the web!

Re: Perian is shutting down

#53

Post by SeoxyS »

gulbrandr wrote: post #46
SeoxyS wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoops, I totally forgot to mention 1Password. Another top 5 essential. Without it, I can't login anywhere :). Also: Growl.

Digression: > Without it, I can't login anywhere Here is the problem with 1Password and other similar tools: if you are in a place where you don't have access to 1Password, you can't login at all ( i.e. you are screwed). This is why I force myself to remember all my passwords even if they are complex and numerous.

That's true, but as long as either of those is true, I'm fine:

1) I have internet access to get to dropbox.com. 2) I have my iPhone handy.

1Password syncs to both of these over the air. So, bare a catastrophe, I should be fine.

Re: Perian is shutting down

#54

Post by batista »

gulbrandr wrote: post #46
SeoxyS wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whoops, I totally forgot to mention 1Password. Another top 5 essential. Without it, I can't login anywhere :). Also: Growl.

Digression: > Without it, I can't login anywhere Here is the problem with 1Password and other similar tools: if you are in a place where you don't have access to 1Password, you can't login at all ( i.e. you are screwed). This is why I force myself to remember all my passwords even if they are complex and numerous.

So, instead of syncing them to your phone, and having them encrypted on DropBox, or a USB stick or something, you force yourself to remember redundant staff that would only prove useful 1 in 100 times?

Re: Perian is shutting down

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Post by gurkendoktor »

Perian used to be me first download on every Mac, but 10.7 does not let me hide the file preview (top right) in column view anymore. If I scroll through a list of video files and hit something complicated (like MKV) the Finder just hangs. Has this bothered anyone else? Or is detail view more common in the wild?

I love the VLC redesign though, and it arrived just in time, so I'm happy.

Re: Perian is shutting down

#56

Post by gurkendoktor »

SeoxyS wrote: post #27
peter_l_downs wrote: post #10

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What are the other four things?

Adium. Quicksilver. Homebrew. Dropbox. Also: Chrome, Xcode, Skitch, Divvy and the basic CLI tools.

The one more thing that I really, really recommend for anyone to try is Flux. I really wish the iPad had it.

And then there are lots of "default writes" that I do on every new computer… :(

Re: Perian is shutting down

#57

Post by robgough »

danbee wrote: post #49
gulbrandr wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Digression: > Without it, I can't login anywhere Here is the problem with 1Password and other similar tools: if you are in a place where you don't have access to 1Password, you can't login at all ( i.e. you are screwed). This is why I force myself to remember all my passwords even if they are complex and numerous.

As asmala said, you can sync to Dropbox, plus it has a web based version that works great directly from the Dropbox web interface. So you can access your passwords anywhere you can log into Dropbox.

I've had 1Password for a few months now, and didn't know this. Colour me impressed. Thanks for pointing it out.

Re: Perian is shutting down

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Post by Stokestack »

sirn wrote: post #38
Stokestack wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MPlayer lacks a playlist though, which is annoying. VLC's recent UI changes have been a step backward (specifically making it impossible to see the playlist and the video at the same time), but at least you can queue things up to play.

MPlayer OSX Extended[1] is your friend. It has playlist, it has nice interface and you could swap out MPlayer player binary with a newer one (e.g. mplayer2-git[2] or build your own via Homebrew[3]). I like MPlayer OSX Extended far more than MPlayerX or any other alternatives, shame that it didn't get the attention it deserves. [1]: http://www.mplayerosx.ch/ [2]: http://code.google.com/p/mplayerosx-builds/downloads/li…

Interesting. Thanks.

Re: Perian is shutting down

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Post by durin42 »

X-Istence wrote: post #51
Schlaefer wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Performance and the youtube issues aside: afaik Perian is the only easy option to add WebM support to Safari. Are there any alternatives?

Perian is even recommended by Google on their WebM page when you start looking for a way to get WebM content on Mac OS X.

Let's be clear: we're not killing Perian, we're just done actively developing it. For my part, I'll work to keep it functional as it breaks on versions of OS X I use, but I'm lagging by a full major version these days because I really only need OS X for the unix layer, and Apple isn't moving the platform in a direction that makes life easy for things like Perian (which we'll never be able to meaningfully codesign as an app, for example).

Re: Perian is shutting down

#60

Post by fusiongyro »

sjs wrote: post #42
fusiongyro wrote: post #32

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It's funny. I used to use Psi, but then I switched to iChat. I used to use Quicksilver, then I switched to Launchbar, and now I just use Spotlight. I have Homebrew, because MacPorts can't install 3.2 of GNU Smalltalk and for no other reason. I haven't installed Dropbox ever, or Skitch (never heard of it, will check it out) or Divvy (I think I downloaded a demo of it once, thought it would be cool, and never went back…

I went from LaunchBar to Quicksilver to Spotlight to LaunchBar. Can't live without that clipboard history! I don't use many of its other features anymore though. Preview annotates things well enough that I never use Skitch, although Skitch is cool if you want to use the sharing features. You might be missing out on Dropbox. I wouldn't want to go without it these days as I use more than one computer regularly and don'…

Agree on TextMate. Haven't heard of most of the other stuff. I used Xmonad for about six months, then I basically copied the keybindings into an fvwm config, then I switched to KDE, brought over a handful of the keybindings and I seem to be alright.

I would probably use Dropbox if I didn't have a VM. A friend has been trying to get me to use one of their competitors for a while.

Plan 9 is great, just a bit too much ideology to actually get anything done. I hope it's still maintained in 40 years in case I do go that way. :)

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