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Re: Plagiarism

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Post by SourPatch »

redcircle wrote: post #278
zeedotme wrote: post #142

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we have a strict policy in place to make sure this doesn't happen. If it does, and it really shouldn't have beyond a year ago (when we really clamped down on it with our authors)... we fix it. If it ever does happen, I assure you that all it takes is one email to office@thenextweb.com and we'll have it resolved. But I assure you that this "care free" image you might have of us when it comes to posting other peoples i…

What's up with the down voting? The score is now so low that you have to play with the screen contrast to read the comment. Does it enhance the quality of Hacker News when we can't read a side of the argument? This is judgmental crap, not mature debate.

I just highlight with the mouse.

Re: Plagiarism

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Post by rosstafarian »

dkokelley wrote: post #203
sparknlaunch12 wrote: post #193

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Strange that this has been greyed out? Not condoning the act of plagiarism but seems fairer to allow all parties to say their bits?

I do wish this wasn't downvoted to grey. This is content I think most of us will find interesting and relevant to the discussion. I understand that HN allows downvotes of disagreement, even though in this case it buries the most relevant information.

I actually think the grey has the opposite effect, makes the post really stand out and i go out of my way to high-light and read it, if only to see why the person was downvoted so much.

To stay on topic I can't believe the guy still hasn't apologized. Judging by his attitude and replies he's probably too busy self-rationalizing about how he's right and if everyone else wasn't an idiot we would all agree with him.

Re: Plagiarism

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Post by dkokelley »

ktizo wrote: post #248
dkokelley wrote: post #203

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I do wish this wasn't downvoted to grey. This is content I think most of us will find interesting and relevant to the discussion. I understand that HN allows downvotes of disagreement, even though in this case it buries the most relevant information.

Highlight it then and read it. Or change your browser colours.

It's not the text contrast that bothers me. It's that we're effectively trying to censor someone directly related to the article, if only for the fact that we believe him to be wrong. I would prefer that his comments are perceived as most relevant to the discussion at hand, and upvoted (or at least left alone) so that the comment can stand on its own.

Zee's 'punishment' shouldn't come in the form of mass downvoting and censorship. His punishment should be publicity. Let the community see what he has to say and judge his actions, not his comments.

Re: Plagiarism

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Post by dkokelley »

rosstafarian wrote: post #282
dkokelley wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do wish this wasn't downvoted to grey. This is content I think most of us will find interesting and relevant to the discussion. I understand that HN allows downvotes of disagreement, even though in this case it buries the most relevant information.

I actually think the grey has the opposite effect, makes the post really stand out and i go out of my way to high-light and read it, if only to see why the person was downvoted so much. To stay on topic I can't believe the guy still hasn't apologized. Judging by his attitude and replies he's probably too busy self-rationalizing about how he's right and if everyone else wasn't an idiot we would all agree with him.

Mentioned elsewhere: I'm not complaining about the specific text contrast. My concern is with downvotes being misused (albeit for my own definition of misused).

Downvoting also has the effect of lowering the comment's position relative to other replies. No matter the color, the comment will appear below someone who gets a higher score, even though I can't imagine a more relevant comment than from the guy this entire thread (and post) is really centered around.

Re: Plagiarism

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Post by Fuzzwah »

tlrobinson wrote: post #270
csomar wrote: post #181

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I'm not bothered much by "ur" (since it's Twitter, and you have only 140 characters) than by his tone.

I refuse to shorten words to "SMS speak", even on Twitter. I can't stand when supposedly intelligent adults do it.

I used to be like you, then I realised that the English language has been ever evolving. Being prejudiced against efficiency has rarely turned out well.

Re: Plagiarism

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Post by droithomme »

grandalf wrote: post #273
droithomme wrote: post #254

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Speaking of the screenshots, it's not only what you say, but on Zee Kane's twitter feed, he has accused the true author of having misrepresented the before and after screen shots: http://twitter.com/#!/Zee/status/202124995923681280 > Zee Kane: "he [Mr. Gross] doesn't have screenshots of the whole article…You don't that's pretty sly?" It is clear this is highly disingenuous argument and a false implication that Mr. Gr…

Maybe this was staged and Zee never wrote any of those comments. The Google doc link is suspicious.

That is a very interesting theory. Do you believe his Twitter account was hacked then and he has been out of town and has no idea what the attacker has been posting there about this while impersonating him?

Re: Plagiarism

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Post by ktizo »

dkokelley wrote: post #283
ktizo wrote: post #248

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Highlight it then and read it. Or change your browser colours.

It's not the text contrast that bothers me. It's that we're effectively trying to censor someone directly related to the article, if only for the fact that we believe him to be wrong. I would prefer that his comments are perceived as most relevant to the discussion at hand, and upvoted (or at least left alone) so that the comment can stand on its own. Zee's 'punishment' shouldn't come in the form of mass downvoting a…

How are his comments censored? I managed to read them perfectly fine. Censoring would be removal of a comment, not changing the font colour.
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