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5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients

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Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients

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Very unrelated but if anyone reading this is dealing with long covid/brain fog related symptoms, try famotidine (pepcid).

Why? "However, studies have shown that famotidine is not effective in reducing mortality or improving recovery in COVID-19 patients.[38]" Borrell B (26 April 2020). "New York clinical trial quietly tests heartburn remedy against coronavirus". Science Magazine. A lot of Long Covid seems to be related to mitochondrial damage. You'd probably be better off getting some creatine (which is commonly available because weight…

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Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Very unrelated but if anyone reading this is dealing with long covid/brain fog related symptoms, try famotidine (pepcid).

Why? "However, studies have shown that famotidine is not effective in reducing mortality or improving recovery in COVID-19 patients.[38]" Borrell B (26 April 2020). "New York clinical trial quietly tests heartburn remedy against coronavirus". Science Magazine. A lot of Long Covid seems to be related to mitochondrial damage. You'd probably be better off getting some creatine (which is commonly available because weight…

I'm specifically referring to long covid neurological symptoms like brain fog. Not hospitalization rates, mortality, or whatever measure of recovery most studies of severe patients would be concerned with.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10229204/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7786260/

Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients

#54

I'm waiting for it to turn out to be something stupid like highly lead-contaminated cutlery, furniture and other things. Or maybe some sort of pesticide or insecticide being sprayed on or around the building.

Can't speak to pesticides, but lead would have been detected in blood tests

Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients

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Everyone who looked at Havana Syndrome when it came out with a critical eye realized immediately it was a BS story. Sonic weapons? Oh please. Thing is, this sort of thing happens all the time. A prominent and current example is cops and fentanyl. If you listen to cops, they will tell you that just being in the rom with fentanyl can be deadly, breathing it in can be deadly. I'm not sure where this started but it's bec…

Using the 30 year statistic as proof there’s no crime is extreme dishonesty. You’re taking about the tail end of the crack epidemic which saw some of the worst crime in our nations history. Further, this is true on average but people in major cities have seen a rise in crime with a city like Seattle having its highest rates in a generation. Even cities like SF have not recovered to pre-Covid levels.

Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients

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It is, but Havana Syndrome doesn't seem to have much to do with communism. Every country spies on every other country - even allies - and embassies are good places to do that - so there are all sorts of radio beams flying around those areas. The simplest hypothesis is that one of them accidentally also interacts with humans and Cuba doesn't really care much to fix it (wouldn't blame them).

> Havana Syndrome doesn't seem to have much to do with communism

Of course, this is actually about Unitary Marxist–Leninist one-party semi-presidential socialist republics, not communism.

> so there are all sorts of radio beams flying around those areas. The simplest hypothesis is that one of them accidentally also interacts with humans and Cuba doesn't really care much to fix it

No, that's by far the most complicated possible explanation. You can measure radio waves, and they did, and they're normal. We also know how radio waves interact with humans, and it doesn't cause Havana syndrome. Radio waves have a frequency, and all of those frequencies have been known and categorized and studied for many decades.

Its seriously a million times more likely that someone has found the brown note and left it playing on a laptop in the conference room. That's how insane it is to say that there's a radio beam that is accidentally interacting with humans and causing these supposed symptoms.

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afaik posts can't get downvotes on hn, only comments. My karma is north of 14k. Maybe I haven't unlocked some undocumented downvote privilege, but if it exists, it's certainly not public and the barrier to entry is quite high.

You are right.. I meant comments.

Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients

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This was another hysteria that was constantly government-fueled, and discussion of it completely disappeared once the people who met every morning to whiteboard how best to push it were assigned to other projects.

It's very strange that the serious position is to pretend like this was an organic social phenomenon, an incident of mass psychology, and ignore the fact that it was always, as far as any science goes, a physically impossible proposition, entirely fueled by successive administrations advocating for it in every mainstream media outlet. This was another reason why Russia was a nation of comic book style evil geniuses t…

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Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients

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The symptoms sounded like burnout from the beginning. Hypochondria is a common symptom of stress, depression, and other mental disorders. A scary and confusion symptom when one does not have tendencies for it normally. There isn't one clean piece of evidence for any energy weapon or attack hypothesis. It's about time the mass hysteria surrounding Havana syndrome is laid to rest.

Chronic stress affects your brain though. It's common to find hippocampus abnormalities in burnout patients.
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