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Why are there suddenly so many car washes?

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Re: Why are there suddenly so many car washes?

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> That seems to be jumping to an extreme end, that someone owns an empty plot of land that has been cleared and destroyed to bare, dead dirt. My concern is that the same incentive pushing one to sell a pile of dirt would exist for someone owning an undeveloped, natural plot of land. My earlier caveat still exists, maybe this isn't a concern in dense areas though it would add some blockers for anyone interested in tur…

> frankly putting a tax on land is more likely to return some of those unused lots to the city This seems like a really dangerous justification, and frankly one that would be a complete no-go for me. You just made it clear that the goal, at least in part, is to make a tax so high that it more often goes unpaid and the city can take the land away from the land owner. They might as well skip the game and claim eminent…

> You just made it clear that the goal, at least in part, is to make a tax so high that it more often goes unpaid and the city can take the land away from the land owner.

Have you ever lived near an empty lot or abandoned building in a city? Yes, I want those going back into circulation, whether via the owner doing something with them, selling them to someone who will, or it falling to the city. You do know we're in a housing crisis? There simply isn't enough space to go round, something has to give; I'd rather see those absentee landowners who don't care enough to do the minimum lose their stuff than have hard working people living n to a room like we do now.

Re: Why are there suddenly so many car washes?

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Could it be that single family homeownership is higher there? I can kind of speak for some of L.A.'s use of manual car washes. There's many who live in apartments or places that don't have places to wash at home. Manual car washes fill the void for people that want to clean their own car but don't have space.

it might be. It might also be a water conservation thing, somehow, but I can't see how that would work unless they filter the water used in teh carwashes that are automatic and reuse them in some way not feasible with the power-wash-for-quarters sorts of stalls.

The automatic systems can reuse water, and quite a bit:

https://ncswash.com/what-is-a-car-wash-water-recycling-syste...

The pay/pressure wash systems I've ever seen are all older, I don't know how many new ones they're building. I suspect automatic washers are cheap "enough" now that you can't build a new pay to wash that comes out substantially cheaper.

When I was a kid it was $2 for the power wash for quarters type, and $10 for automatic or by hand, now it's $8 for the automatic decades later.

Re: Why are there suddenly so many car washes?

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I can wash my car in my driveway, but last summer when my city implemented water use controls (due to drought conditions), they didn't allow it. Oddly enough, they didn't restrict commercial car washes.

Commercial car washes recycle their water.

Substantially - we're talking 300 liters per vehicle down to 30.

Re: Why are there suddenly so many car washes?

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I have actually briefly considered opening a car wash. They seem like just about one of the easiest businesses to run. Minimal employees, low variable costs, likely a reasonable long term investment in the actual rental estate. In many ways, this the same as gas stations, convenience stores, and CVS/rite-aid/walgreens. People don’t want to go out if their way.

more importantly, after the switch to EVs, you're still gonna need car washes. Gas stations, not so much.

My guess is the gas stations will have car washes attached to them (as some already do).

I suspect some of this all is them being "sold" and in a few years a bunch will be gone, unable to make the payments on the loans taken.

Re: Why are there suddenly so many car washes?

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Forcing the sale of private property to anyone who can fork up the cash sounds absolutely ripe for abuse.

Yes, real life is always more complicated. It would be necessary to block sales of a personal or vindictive nature, so the local rich guy can't force their enemies out of their homes. And have robust antitrust. And correct the perverse incentive towards poison pills, such as polluting the land to make it undesirable.

Just make X% large enough.

If Musk wants to get pissed at me and buy my house for $3m I'll be there to sell.

Re: Why are there suddenly so many car washes?

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Why assume there is a line? I spent like $1500 just for the tickets twice last year to take my family of 4 to Disneyland which is mostly standing in line.

Surely Disneyland is more fun than a car wash

If you take the kids to the car wash when they're small enough, you can tell them it's Disneyland.

Re: Why are there suddenly so many car washes?

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Car dealerships are a big source

Don't car dealers often have an automatic wash on site? Unless these are little used-car lots?

One car wash per dealer would be even more dense than the current number of car washes. Dealers seem to be everywhere.

Re: Why are there suddenly so many car washes?

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> 1) Who is spending $20 a month on car washes? I've spent $200 - $350 on car detailing as a service several times now. They drive to your home and work on your car for several hours to get it looking brand new. As someone who drives an SUV, has dogs in the car frequently, and gets my vehicle muddy on the inside, this is a fantastic service. A bunch of my neighbors use the exact same service.

This a national company? I’d love to find someone around me that does this.

Search "mobile detailing" - it's a common form of franchise, as it's relatively cheap on the equipment.

Read reviews. Ask around at nearby dealerships if they use one.

Re: Why are there suddenly so many car washes?

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How can car washes in the US still go for $10 in these inflationary times, or a fraction of that with a subscription? Here in Australia you're generally looking at A$25 and up ($17-ish at current exchange rates, more until recently).

Because after paying for the equipment and maintenance, the marginal cost of the wash is whatever soap it uses, the electricity, and a few gallons of water (with a recycling car wash).

Selling a teaspoon of soap and 4 gallons of water for $10 is a darn good deal. And if you're already paying all the fixed costs, you want to sell as many as you can.

Re: Why are there suddenly so many car washes?

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That's due to poverty... calorie dense, highly processed food is cheap as hell due to mass production efficiencies, but high quality food? Groceries? Ain't no one got the money for that, or they live in "food deserts" [1]. For poor kids, it's even worse, because all they have other than sub-par school lunches is whatever microwave meal their parents can afford not just financially but also time-wise. Cooking for a fa…

Many people are obese despite not living in poverty (including myself, unfortunately).

I agree. Reports from Pew Research Center and CDC show that the cause for obesity is complex and cannot be pinpointed to just poverty. The studies are a decade old, but are still prevalent.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2013/11/13/obesity-a...

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6650a1.htm

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