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YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Post by airspresso »

orbital-decay wrote: post #145
the_duke wrote: post #31

They don't bother to mention it, but this is actually to comply with the the new EU AI act. > Providers will also have to ensure that AI-generated content is identifiable. Besides, AI-generated text published with the purpose to inform the public on matters of public interest must be labelled as artificially generated. This also applies to audio and video content constituting deep fakes https://digital-strategy.ec.eu…

Labeling AI-generated content (assuming it works) is beneficial for Google, as they can avoid some dataset contamination.

Excellent point. With more and more AI-generated content it will be key to be able to tell it apart from the human-generated content.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Post by airspresso »

Karellen wrote: post #209
the_duke wrote: post #31

They don't bother to mention it, but this is actually to comply with the the new EU AI act. > Providers will also have to ensure that AI-generated content is identifiable. Besides, AI-generated text published with the purpose to inform the public on matters of public interest must be labelled as artificially generated. This also applies to audio and video content constituting deep fakes https://digital-strategy.ec.eu…

What if a real person reads a script that was created with an LLM? Does that count? Should it?

Blog post specifically mentions that using AI to help writing the script does not require labeling the video.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Post by TurningCanadian »

JohnFen wrote: post #231
bgirard wrote: post #97

I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up like prop 65 cancer warnings, or cookie banners. The intention might be to separate believable but low quality hallucinated AI content spam from high quality manual content. But it will backfire like prop 65. You'll see notices everywhere because increasingly AI will be used in all parts of the content creation pipeline. I see YouTube's own guidelines in the article and they se…

> You'll see notices everywhere because increasingly AI will be used in all parts of the content creation pipeline. Which would be OK with me, personally. Right now, those cookie banners do serve a valuable function for me -- when I see them, I know to treat the site with caution and skepticism. If AI warnings end up similar, they too will serve a similar purpose. It's all better than nothing.

I like sites whose cookie banner gives options instead of only having "Accept All". It makes you feel more respected as a user.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Post by pixl97 »

xp84 wrote: post #232
jcalx wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This will make AI the new sesame allergen [1] — if you aren't 100% certain every asset you use isn't AI-generated, then it makes sense to stick some AI-generated content in and label the video accordingly, out of compliance. [1] https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/08/30/1196640...

Wow. This is an awesome education on why you can’t just regulate the world into what you want it to be without regard to feasibility. I’m sure the few who are allergic are mad, but it would also be messed up to just ban all “allergens” across the board - which is the only effective and fair way to guarantee that this approach couldn’t ever be used to comply with these laws. There isn’t much out there that somebody is…

>would also be messed up to just ban all “allergens” across the board -

Lol, this sounds like one of those fabels where an idiot king bans all allergens then a week later everyone is starving to death in the kingdom because it turns out that in a large enough population there will be enough different allergies that everything gets banned.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Post by pixl97 »

poszlem wrote: post #111
speff wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that there wasn't a rule that could be used to take a misleading video down. Now there is. Finding out a video is maliciously fabricated is a different problem.

Of course, YouTube is well-known for its methodical approach to video removal, strictly adhering to transparent guidelines, rather than deciding based on the "computer says no" principle.

Knock knock

Who's there

dmcAI takedown notice!

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Post by renegade-otter »

bgirard wrote: post #97

I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up like prop 65 cancer warnings, or cookie banners. The intention might be to separate believable but low quality hallucinated AI content spam from high quality manual content. But it will backfire like prop 65. You'll see notices everywhere because increasingly AI will be used in all parts of the content creation pipeline. I see YouTube's own guidelines in the article and they se…

Cookie banners are not required even by EU laws. It's a stupid trend everyone is copying.

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Post by The_Colonel »

alphazard wrote: post #188
the_duke wrote: post #31

They don't bother to mention it, but this is actually to comply with the the new EU AI act. > Providers will also have to ensure that AI-generated content is identifiable. Besides, AI-generated text published with the purpose to inform the public on matters of public interest must be labelled as artificially generated. This also applies to audio and video content constituting deep fakes https://digital-strategy.ec.eu…

Is anyone else worried about how naive this policy is? The solution here is for important institutions to get onboard with the public key infrastructure, and start signing anything they want to certify as authentic. The culture needs to shift from assuming video and pictures are real, to assuming they are made the easiest way possible. A signature means the signer wants you to know the content is theirs, nothing else…

> The culture needs to shift from assuming video and pictures are real, to assuming they are made the easiest way possible.

That sounds like a dystopia, but I guess we're going into that direction. I expect that a lot of fringe groups like flat-earthers, lizard people conspiracy, war in Ukraine is fake, will become way more mainstream.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Post by pixl97 »

speff wrote: post #150
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're acting like this is a court with a judge. The company makes up subjective rules and then subjectively enforces them. There was never any arguing to begin with, they just ban you if they don't like you, or at random for no apparent reason, and you have no recourse. > Now there's no more arguing. Is it generated or is it real - and is it marked if generated? I still fail to see the downside here. How is this sup…

Youtube isn't some mom n' pop operation - they do have a review process and make an attempt at following the rules they set. They can ban you for any reason...but they generally don't unless you're clearly breaking a rule. I'm not getting into the rabbit hole of finding out if it was actually generated - once again, that's a different problem. One that I already mentioned 2 comments back. My point was that there is l…

>Youtube isn't some mom n' pop operation

At a mom and pop you could at least talk to a person and figure out what happen.

>I don't deal in "well this _could_ lead to this"

Did you not learn from the entire DMCA thing? Remember the thing where piles tech people warned "Wow, this is going to be used as a weapon to cause problems" and then it was used as a weapon to cause problems.

Well, welcome to the next weapon that is going to be used to cause problems.

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Post by kube-system »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #65
jjcm wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One black hat thing I'm curious about though is whether or not this tag can be weaponized. If I upload a real event and tag it as AI, will it reduce user trust that the real event ever happened?

The AI tags are fundamentally useless. The premise is that it would prevent someone from misleading you by thinking that something happened when it didn't, but someone who wants to do that would just not tag it then. Which is where the real abuse comes in: You post footage of a real event and they say it was AI, and ban you for it etc., because what actually happened is politically inconvenient. And the only way to p…

> The premise is that it would prevent someone from misleading you by thinking that something happened when it didn't, but someone who wants to do that would just not tag it then.

And when they do that, the video is now against Google's policy and can be removed. That's the point of this policy.

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