> Yet sophisticated MRI scans detected no significant differences in brain volume, structure or white matter — signs of injury or degeneration In case it wasn’t clear: Neuroimaging can’t visualize every possible problem. They performed one type of testing and didn’t find anything. That’s not the same as concluding that there are no problems. It should go without saying that a clean MRI isn’t proof that other neurolog…
5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients
21–30 of 100 posts
Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients
#22[flagged]
Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients
#23Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients
#24[flagged]
Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients
#25Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients
#26[flagged]
My karma is north of 14k. Maybe I haven't unlocked some undocumented downvote privilege, but if it exists, it's certainly not public and the barrier to entry is quite high.
Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients
#27[flagged]
(Postscript) In contrast, the one which raises the possibility of hypochondria and burnout is still at the top in my browser; it seems adequately skeptical, but doesn’t appear to be radically downvoted like the others, presumably because there’s more content to it.
Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients
#28The symptoms sounded like burnout from the beginning. Hypochondria is a common symptom of stress, depression, and other mental disorders. A scary and confusion symptom when one does not have tendencies for it normally. There isn't one clean piece of evidence for any energy weapon or attack hypothesis. It's about time the mass hysteria surrounding Havana syndrome is laid to rest.
While I agree there is not evidence of a weapon, I am not buying hypochondria. The amount of reports and the peculiarity of the hearing symptoms don't add up to hypochondria. Local environmental pathogens or chemicals could be a cause. Also, our ability to detect such pathogens or brain abnormalities is still very limited, so finding no abnormalities is not surprising.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_psychogenic_illness
We had a case of it near us in upstate New York a few years back. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/11/magazine/teenage-girls-tw... (https://archive.is/EoY7e)
Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can't for example see ME/CFS or Long Covid neural damage on a typical MRI but when you do autopsies you find a host of problems including complete viral RNA and intrusion of the immune system that shouldn't be there. Given the similar presentation of Havana syndrome to ME/CFS it would seem sensible to look for some of the similar markers of vascular brain damage with the process developed there by Jared Younger a…
Very unrelated but if anyone reading this is dealing with long covid/brain fog related symptoms, try famotidine (pepcid).
Re: 5-year study finds no brain abnormalities in 'Havana Syndrome' patients
#30> Yet sophisticated MRI scans detected no significant differences in brain volume, structure or white matter — signs of injury or degeneration In case it wasn’t clear: Neuroimaging can’t visualize every possible problem. They performed one type of testing and didn’t find anything. That’s not the same as concluding that there are no problems. It should go without saying that a clean MRI isn’t proof that other neurolog…
Use the medicines to fix many issues and the mechanism for its action is unknown yet produces a positive outcome. This affected a handful of people yet gets a lot of attention like shark attacks versus drowning.
Any topics that are outside of the programming space are getting significantly worse for comments to where it’s becoming a waste of time to refute them or even acknowledge that they are trolls.