It's amazing how many people in this thread are seriously suggesting that these a11y features are not important. Do HN readers not understand that someday they will grow old, and their eyesight will fail, and they will find themselves increasing the font size on their devices?
Oh shit, my app is successful and I didn't think about accessibility
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#72Re: Oh shit, my app is successful and I didn't think about accessibility
#73The last app, I figured a way to make that easier to manage, and reward use by non-disabled folks.
I have a long-press help feature. If you long-press on any element in the UI, up pops a popover, with a header, and body text, pointing at the element. The popover explains that element.
It's fairly easy to have a long-press gesture recognizer applied to the main view, and dynamically figure out which element was hit. I then look for the accessibility items. If they are there, I do the popover.
I use the accessibilityLabel for the header, and the accessibilityHint for the text. It works extremely well, and no one has ever had it pop up when they weren't specifically trying for it.
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#74Re: Oh shit, my app is successful and I didn't think about accessibility
#75It's amazing how many people in this thread are seriously suggesting that these a11y features are not important. Do HN readers not understand that someday they will grow old, and their eyesight will fail, and they will find themselves increasing the font size on their devices?
Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Bad analogy. Preparing food unhygienically is bad for everyone at the picnic. A more appropriate analogy is disallowing watermelon at the picnic because one person can't eat watermelon. > Please go play badminton. Love the irony of including this comment in a post about making your app inclusive
> Love the irony of including this comment in a post about making your app inclusive
Why is that ironic? There's a broad gap between being unable to use an app due to a disability, and unwilling to write apps that will be usable to people with disabilities. One is an immutable characteristic of a person, and the other is a personal choice to be calous. Inclusivity doesn't mean you can't kick people out for being jerks.
And in this case, if I were to hire a developer for an app, and they were so dismissive of accessibility concerns, I would end their interview with abrupt and direct feedback and the law would be on my side.
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#77Re: Oh shit, my app is successful and I didn't think about accessibility
#78Isn't it quite ironic to use a numeronym like a11y for the word accessibility?
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#79What is the real liability for a scenario like this? Is there any grace period when a new app or startup becomes far more successful far sooner than expected? I imagine A11Y isn't a massive concern when it's not certain an idea will even work; outside of California I can't imagine being legally skewered if, once you attain unexpected success, you devote A11Y resources to address this issue.
This was about 5-6 years ago though and I was told back then that there was a number of people who are deliberately scouring the internet for websites with accessibility issues so they can sue them for not complying with US accessibility laws. These lawsuits I believe can be fairly costly for large organisations – I know I was given numbers in the millions, but I was on the technical team so I can't say for sure whether that number is accurate.
In one of the cases I was involved with we were given a period of time to take remedial action to make our site accessible otherwise we could face additional fines. I'd assume if you have a reasonable excuse that the penalties and remediation period would be more lenient.
I'll also add I'm from the UK, but our websites served US customers and our lawsuits came from the US. I believe the UK has similar accessibility laws, but I guess we don't have the same culture of suing businesses.
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#80Isn't it quite ironic to use a numeronym like a11y for the word accessibility?
Searching for "a11y" will find you results for accessibility specifically as it relates to web/app technologies, whereas searching for "accessibility" will find you results relating to everything. Of course that only works if everyone agrees to use it, but thankfully, everyone agreed to use it.