"Pillows are not necessary". It is but good position in sleep depends on an individual itself. Some people find pillows essential for comfort and proper spinal alignment
Instinctive Sleeping and Resting Postures (2000)
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Re: Instinctive Sleeping and Resting Postures (2000)
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
It also feels a little strange in writing. Examples: "Figure Figure11 shows a mountain gorilla lying on the ground on his side without a pillow" - Of course it is without a pillow, it's a mountain gorilla! What is this clarification? "To start with, some Westerners have to hold on to a doorframe." - Would it not be better to say "you may have to hold on" or "newbies"? It is not like Westerners have some special physi…
A pillow doesn't need to be a factory-made product that you buy at a store. Plenty of humans make pillows out of natural objects when sleeping outdoors. I can totally imagine a mountain gorilla using a chunk of wood, or even a body part of another gorilla, as a "pillow" if it makes them feel more comfortable.
In order to protect skin on your face from acne or wrinkles I think it preferable to sleep on a pillow
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is probably because of child mortality etc. I.e. the conclusion that people there don't usually live past 60 seems like a fallacy.
That is part of it, but there would also be things like high mortality during childbirth, and lack of antibiotics there at that time.
At the same time you have no car crashes or other post-industrial dangers.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're also incredibly active compared to any "civilised" people. There's a lot of evidence that sedentary lifestyles are bad for bodies. Presumably they're also, on average, younger than "civilised" peoples. Life expectancy for an Amazonian Tribe was just 53 years. https://www.sbs.com.au/food/article/how-to-eat-like-an-amazo... Muscle and joint issues are a symptom of aging. If nobody's making it to 60, then aging…
Life expectancy of 53 does not usually mean nobody makes it to 60. In the early 1900s[1], life expectancy at birth in England was 53, but at the same time, as long as you survived until you were 20, your life expectancy had increased to over 60. If you lived to 50, you could expect to become 70. https://ourworldindata.org/images/published/Life-expectancy-... ---- [1]: Not counting the years of the Spanish flu!
To the parents point, you sort of made their point. “If you made it to x”. By having fewer older members of their population they likely had few joint problems reported overall. I would expect any reasonable study to control for this variable but a survey would not.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're also incredibly active compared to any "civilised" people. There's a lot of evidence that sedentary lifestyles are bad for bodies. Presumably they're also, on average, younger than "civilised" peoples. Life expectancy for an Amazonian Tribe was just 53 years. https://www.sbs.com.au/food/article/how-to-eat-like-an-amazo... Muscle and joint issues are a symptom of aging. If nobody's making it to 60, then aging…
Life expectancy of 53 does not usually mean nobody makes it to 60. In the early 1900s[1], life expectancy at birth in England was 53, but at the same time, as long as you survived until you were 20, your life expectancy had increased to over 60. If you lived to 50, you could expect to become 70. https://ourworldindata.org/images/published/Life-expectancy-... ---- [1]: Not counting the years of the Spanish flu!
Life expectancy is such a consistently deceptive measurement that I often wonder why it's not been replaced. Surely there must be more useful ways of quantifying lifespans, something like a "median age of currently living people"?
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
A pillow doesn't need to be a factory-made product that you buy at a store. Plenty of humans make pillows out of natural objects when sleeping outdoors. I can totally imagine a mountain gorilla using a chunk of wood, or even a body part of another gorilla, as a "pillow" if it makes them feel more comfortable.
My dog loves pillows. But he doesn't move them. If he's laying down, and a pillow-like object is near, he'll use it. But if the sun moves, he'll move, without the pillow.
Humans are environment-changers. That’s why dogs teamed up with humans. Humans seem to spend a lot of time doing strange and seemingly useless things, like banging rocks together and looking at shiny boxes, but at the end of the day there is always extra food and the environment around humans is full of mysteriously comfortable objects.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is part of it, but there would also be things like high mortality during childbirth, and lack of antibiotics there at that time.
At the same time you have no car crashes or other post-industrial dangers.
But you also were much more likely to farm and hunt and do manual labor. All much more dangerous than office chair
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#98The Tibetan caraveneers sleeping on their shins is metal af. As a bonus, in that position, the penis is protected from instects. Did that little observation, erm, stand out to anyone else?
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#99> Forest dwellers and nomads suffer fewer musculoskeletal lesions than “civilised” people > I tried to carry out surveys to collect evidence but they were meaningless, as tribespeople give you the answer they think you want. Could they simply have higher thresholds for complaining?
They sure seem to complain a lot about insects on their penises
How many times do you think somebody’s penis has to be attacked by insects before preventing that becomes the main “figure of merit” for evaluating sleeping positions? I think it is not very far from 1 time.
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#100> Forest dwellers and nomads suffer fewer musculoskeletal lesions than “civilised” people > I tried to carry out surveys to collect evidence but they were meaningless, as tribespeople give you the answer they think you want. Could they simply have higher thresholds for complaining?
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