This reminds me of a friend who missed a dinner date because his Tesla update took way longer than usual.
Running late for college, and the scooter is stuck in an update
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Re: Running late for college, and the scooter is stuck in an update
#12I get a similar thing teaching a coding club. I'm not sure how the machines are set up, as I have an aversion to Windows from my time as an NT 'certified professional', but at least one machine will spend 10 minutes 'updating' during any class. No doubt you can turn this off or set update time windows or whatever, but I'm not the admin for these machines. At least the updates generally work. For my kids' machines at…
So you're saying approximately 3 times a week you reinstall windows on your kids machines?
It sounds from sibling comment that Windows is only booted up at irregular, far-apart times. So most likely there are weeks or months of accumulated updates all trying to go at the same time. No mention of what Windows version is running, or how old the hardware is (limited ram, slow disk, etc).
As a counterpoint anecdote, I've been using Windows 10 Pro on a half dozen both newer and older machines ever since it came out, and have never once had to re-install Windows due to a failed update (and in fact failed updates have only happened a few times, each simply requiring trying once again). But these machines are booted up and used on a regular basis.
Re: Running late for college, and the scooter is stuck in an update
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Re: Running late for college, and the scooter is stuck in an update
#14I get a similar thing teaching a coding club. I'm not sure how the machines are set up, as I have an aversion to Windows from my time as an NT 'certified professional', but at least one machine will spend 10 minutes 'updating' during any class. No doubt you can turn this off or set update time windows or whatever, but I'm not the admin for these machines. At least the updates generally work. For my kids' machines at…
Windows has gotten pretty good at staying out of your way with updates if you have typical usage patterns. That is: either you turn it on at the beginning of the business day, it downloads updates in the background and installs them when you shut the machine down at the end of the day; Or you leave the machine on 24/7, get a couple prompts over multiple days about a scheduled restart with the option to schedule it, a…
Updates on shutdown make sense in some of my machines but are awful in the laptop I use to teach classes. When I finish a class, what I want is to leave to do something else elsewhere (often another class in a different room).
I know I could probably suspend or something, but I never do that because it used to be a lottery on Windows whether your machine would actually unsuspend or you would need to fight it pressing the power button until it rebooted (did they ever fix that?)
Re: Running late for college, and the scooter is stuck in an update
#15Software trying to update when it is started is such a common pattern, despite almost always going against user intent. When I start software, that's because I want to use it. It's pretty high on the list of times I don't want it to become temporarily unusable while it updates itself. Doing the same with vehicle firmware is a sad but predictable state of things.
I can think of several devices I own that never do this. 1) My LG webOS TV. Somehow it always does its thing in the dark. OS and application updates have never been visible to me. 2) My car. Even though it can update over wifi, and by other means, it never tries to do it unbidden. You have to invoke its maintenance mode, at the time of your own choosing, if ever. 3) Google/Nest Wifi, OnHub, et cetera. Always up-to-da…
My Eero wifi defaults to 4am for updates, which is changeable, and it warns me with a push notification the day before. I appreciate whoever implemented that particular subsystem.
Re: Running late for college, and the scooter is stuck in an update
#16Reminds me of that early Airbus issue where the fly by wire system would suddenly go "rebooting, please wait" in the middle of a flight :)
It was on the earliest fly by wire versions as far as I recall, and was fixed pretty quickly :)
Re: Running late for college, and the scooter is stuck in an update
#17I get a similar thing teaching a coding club. I'm not sure how the machines are set up, as I have an aversion to Windows from my time as an NT 'certified professional', but at least one machine will spend 10 minutes 'updating' during any class. No doubt you can turn this off or set update time windows or whatever, but I'm not the admin for these machines. At least the updates generally work. For my kids' machines at…
A friend of mine moved from Windows to Linux many years ago because of that. He used his computer at home only in the weekends and almost every time he switched it on he had to wait for an update to download and install. Sometimes he just switched off the machine and did something else.
Re: Running late for college, and the scooter is stuck in an update
#18I get a similar thing teaching a coding club. I'm not sure how the machines are set up, as I have an aversion to Windows from my time as an NT 'certified professional', but at least one machine will spend 10 minutes 'updating' during any class. No doubt you can turn this off or set update time windows or whatever, but I'm not the admin for these machines. At least the updates generally work. For my kids' machines at…
""For my kids' machines at home, anytime they boot windows, it will do an update, and a good percentage of the time, the update will fail, and brick the machine, requiring a complete re-install."
My wife and kids all use and have used 2nd hand company Windows 10 laptops. Since one of my roles by day is being a system administrator, i took quite some time to setup Windows 10 as they and i like it, being very very thorough in its various settings. The things just.. work..
It's quite rare if they ask for help about updates, crashes, etc. Haven't had a bricked OS since Windows ME.
Getting Fifa 23 and FC24 to work flawlessly on the Windows 10 game computer on the other hand.... Maybe i should start working for EA :)
Re: Running late for college, and the scooter is stuck in an update
#19Software trying to update when it is started is such a common pattern, despite almost always going against user intent. When I start software, that's because I want to use it. It's pretty high on the list of times I don't want it to become temporarily unusable while it updates itself. Doing the same with vehicle firmware is a sad but predictable state of things.
One of very few things I hate about current Samsung phones - there are popups about updates of their preinstalled (and uninstallable) apps from their own store.
I always ignore it, and within few hours there is another notification how they were updated. Seems like most idiotic approach, illusion of choice, effectively frustrating users.
Re: Running late for college, and the scooter is stuck in an update
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Windows has gotten pretty good at staying out of your way with updates if you have typical usage patterns. That is: either you turn it on at the beginning of the business day, it downloads updates in the background and installs them when you shut the machine down at the end of the day; Or you leave the machine on 24/7, get a couple prompts over multiple days about a scheduled restart with the option to schedule it, a…
Updates on shutdown make sense in some of my machines but are awful in the laptop I use to teach classes. When I finish a class, what I want is to leave to do something else elsewhere (often another class in a different room). I know I could probably suspend or something, but I never do that because it used to be a lottery on Windows whether your machine would actually unsuspend or you would need to fight it pressing…
Is that a Windows installed by the manufacturer or a Windows installed by somebody else with possibly not all the right drivers for that machine?