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Re: Car is spying on you, leading to higher insurance rates

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What isn't spying on you nowadays?

my laptop. my camera. my non-gsm vehicle. my garage door opener. my television. my coffee machine. my fridge. my e-reader. my paper library. my turntable. my furniture. my firearms. my hand tools. my bicycle. my luggage. my stove.

most of my tools aren’t spying on me.

this sort of “privacy is impossible, we shouldn’t fight privacy invasions” is defeatist and toxic imho.

Re: Car is spying on you, leading to higher insurance rates

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post #3

What isn't spying on you nowadays?

my laptop. my camera. my non-gsm vehicle. my garage door opener. my television. my coffee machine. my fridge. my e-reader. my paper library. my turntable. my furniture. my firearms. my hand tools. my bicycle. my luggage. my stove. most of my tools aren’t spying on me. this sort of “privacy is impossible, we shouldn’t fight privacy invasions” is defeatist and toxic imho.

oh boy… your laptop is spying on you 24/7 unless it is in the basement disconnected from the internet. your TV is spying on you unless it is black&white :) you e-reader is spying on you. your non-gsm vehicle may not be spying on you directly but thosands or license plate readers all over the place are…

Re: Car is spying on you, leading to higher insurance rates

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It sounds a bit like the pre-crime angle from Minority Report. Because aggressive drivers with accidents and citations already pay higher rates. This is, I assume, penalizing aggressive driving that hasn't yet resulted in a citation or accident.

Or, maybe, penalizing those that drive in riskier areas , regardless of habits? Might be interesting if someone could push for whether anyone's rates went down as a result of data sharing.

Re: Car is spying on you, leading to higher insurance rates

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What isn't spying on you nowadays?

my laptop. my camera. my non-gsm vehicle. my garage door opener. my television. my coffee machine. my fridge. my e-reader. my paper library. my turntable. my furniture. my firearms. my hand tools. my bicycle. my luggage. my stove. most of my tools aren’t spying on me. this sort of “privacy is impossible, we shouldn’t fight privacy invasions” is defeatist and toxic imho.

> my laptop.

That almost certainly is

> my camera

Are you sure your images aren't being tagged with location data? That's a pretty common feature these days

> my non-gsm vehicle

Most vehicles still record diagnostic data. Even if they don't upload it

> my television

How old is your TV? Any TV made in the last 5 years will be. 10+ years will still have diagnostic logs but might not upload them automatically.

Also satellite / cable TV networks track users too.

> my e-reader

I'd be very surprised if that was true.

> my paper library

As in your local library which you need to present your library card to check out publications? And who know who has what checkout out and for how long? They absolutely need to track their customers otherwise people would just steal books.

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> this sort of “privacy is impossible, we shouldn’t fight privacy invasions” is defeatist and toxic imho.

This much I agree with.

Re: Car is spying on you, leading to higher insurance rates

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

my laptop. my camera. my non-gsm vehicle. my garage door opener. my television. my coffee machine. my fridge. my e-reader. my paper library. my turntable. my furniture. my firearms. my hand tools. my bicycle. my luggage. my stove. most of my tools aren’t spying on me. this sort of “privacy is impossible, we shouldn’t fight privacy invasions” is defeatist and toxic imho.

oh boy… your laptop is spying on you 24/7 unless it is in the basement disconnected from the internet. your TV is spying on you unless it is black&white :) you e-reader is spying on you. your non-gsm vehicle may not be spying on you directly but thosands or license plate readers all over the place are…

Are you sure? Or do you mean that you don't know how to stop those things?

My kindle WiFi is permanently off. I use a usb cable. It stops it from downloading adverts to p*ss me off.

My projector doesn't have a WiFi chip. It has an hdmi cable to my laptop.

My laptop runs a pared down Linux, the only thing on it that spies on me is Google Chrome. That's a trade-off I'm comfortable with, since I use pihole to block the adverts so I don't have to see them.

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