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Re: 2600.network Dialup Service

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post #9

FYI - 2600 Hz is a common handshake tone used in telco. Hence why “2600” is referenced. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2600_hertz

2600:: is also an easy to remember IPv6 address for a ping connectivity check, it reverses to www.sprint.net, part of cogent now.

Re: 2600.network Dialup Service

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So a decade and a half ago there used to be the Google Search Appliance (no idea if it still exists). It was essentially a black (actually yellow) box with some Google magic inside that let you have Google search on premises and for local documents you didn’t want leaving your data center back when people still had their own data centers. One problem with this premise was that when the appliance was not working how i…

Image of the box: https://www.wired.com/2012/10/google-search-appliance/

Re: 2600.network Dialup Service

#63

So a decade and a half ago there used to be the Google Search Appliance (no idea if it still exists). It was essentially a black (actually yellow) box with some Google magic inside that let you have Google search on premises and for local documents you didn’t want leaving your data center back when people still had their own data centers. One problem with this premise was that when the appliance was not working how i…

I remember interviewing for Google circa 2010 and they asked me to present on "How does Google make money?". At the time I went with "well aside from ads you have this funky search appliance" and I hoped that they'd find more non-ad ways to make money. They didn't hire me, but it seemed like a neat device.

Re: 2600.network Dialup Service

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This is fantastic!

I recently stumbled upon a now ancient publication called 2600: The Hacker Quarterly. I enjoy print and it is right up my alley. It contains many neat topics and I figure this is a good post to plug it (not affiliated, just love their minimalist design and ethos). Definitely worth a read, it covers so many neat topics from phreaking to neat BASH scripts.

Re: 2600.network Dialup Service

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This is fantastic! I recently stumbled upon a now ancient publication called 2600: The Hacker Quarterly. I enjoy print and it is right up my alley. It contains many neat topics and I figure this is a good post to plug it (not affiliated, just love their minimalist design and ethos). Definitely worth a read, it covers so many neat topics from phreaking to neat BASH scripts.

An absolutely fantastic publication, nice to see it still going.

If you can find it there's a 1000 page hardback compendium of some of the best articles available too.

Re: 2600.network Dialup Service

#67
post #60

So a decade and a half ago there used to be the Google Search Appliance (no idea if it still exists). It was essentially a black (actually yellow) box with some Google magic inside that let you have Google search on premises and for local documents you didn’t want leaving your data center back when people still had their own data centers. One problem with this premise was that when the appliance was not working how i…

Corporate datacenters are still quite common.

Indeed. People thinking otherwise live in quite the news bubble.

Re: 2600.network Dialup Service

#68
post #27

This predates me by at least a decade. How do you use the “BBS”? So once you dial in, it uses IVR to read and write messages? Sounds painful to me once you have more than a dozen active users

All the data is digital (in case of BBS, mostly text, although file transfers are also possible). The analogue phone line is only used for transmitting digital data over the analogue medium. The dial-up modem converts the digital data to an analogue voice signal at the transmitting end and back from analogue to digital at the receiving end. (That's what a modem is: a modulator-demodulator.)

So no, you don't interact with a BBS by speech.

Re: 2600.network Dialup Service

#69
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could possibly use tethering to your mobile phone in some way, although I'm unsure, I'm just throwing an idea out there.

Cellular compression will not play nicely with analog modems. (Or any lossy compression, really - this is why you have to use lossless G.711 to have any hope of this working on VoIP.) Back in the days of 2G cellular, GSM had an option to have your cell phone digitally connect to an analog modem in the cell tower, and have the tower place an analog modem call on your behalf. (Very similar to how T.38 works for faxes i…

I doubt any modern smartphone supports CSD even if you had a carrier that supported it. You'd need either an old feature-phone or 3G dongle (something that exposes a serial port).

Re: 2600.network Dialup Service

#70
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lots of fun history around 2600Hz for those too young to remember or not part of the phreaking crowd, a fairly extinct form of hacker these days. A phreaker going by Joybubbles was the first to exploit the tone by whistling. Later, a toy whistle in a cereal box was found to be able to produce the tone, leading to further exploit by John Draper, aka, Cap'n Crunch. You can 3D print the whistle these days for a bit of n…

> A phreaker going by Joybubbles was the first to exploit the tone by whistling. Joybubbles (formerly Joe Engressia) specifically denied being the first. In this interview (no timestamp), he mentions having heard of others phreaking as far back as the 50s: https://www.2600.com/offthehook/mp3files/1991/off_the_hook__... He also demonstrates whistling 2600hz during that interview, including doing so on one of the only…

Thank you for the corrections! Looks like I have to revisit some history. I never did make it that far back in the Off The Hook archives, despite being a 2600 subscriber for about the last decade. Hacking history is nothing short of muddy waters hiding all sorts of interesting things.

I was born in the very late 1970's, so I had the pleasure of trying to build my own Blue Box just as payphones were starting to see their death in the early 1990's. It was my first real attempt to be part of a group I felt I belonged with; the hackers. I grew up with the verbal history I mentioned, which as you pointed out is factually incorrect, but I cannot deny the power that mythos had over my thinking for the last few decades.

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