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Re: Plagiarism

#232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strange that this has been greyed out? Not condoning the act of plagiarism but seems fairer to allow all parties to say their bits?

I do wish this wasn't downvoted to grey. This is content I think most of us will find interesting and relevant to the discussion. I understand that HN allows downvotes of disagreement, even though in this case it buries the most relevant information.

I vehemently disagree with Zee in this case, but I upvoted his posts because I believe his position deserves to be heard. This goes double for when the other person is mis-handling the fallout. I recommend putting half-baked defenses to the top so everyone can see the person's poor character.

Re: Plagiarism

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post #9

Update: see this comment on HN. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3972875 Zee from TNW here. Someone has to explain to me exactly what we should have done differently here. I honestly have absolutely no idea what we should have done differently here to illustrate an interesting fact with our readers and reference the original source (we did that twice in the article...even with his full name (a screenshot of which…

It's clear from the screenshots the original author captured that you tried to deny responsibility after you changed the plagiarized content. If he didn't have the screenshots you might have gotten away with it.

Since he had the screenshots, your posts all come off as dishonest (which they obviously are).

Your attempt to bully the original author on Twitter looks bad too.

I think every comment you make is digging a deeper hole for you. Odds are you will be forced to resign over this.

Re: Plagiarism

#234

There needs to be some sort of standard for citing other peoples work, sort of like an updated Chicago Manual of Style ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citation#Citation_styles ) for online publications. These days we have all these content mills that put out very little original work... I don't know what the proper method should be, how much work you can take etc. Also remember this - The New York Times spent weeks wr…

Former journalist here. Some years ago I attempted to create a standard called "Source Blocks" (see http://www.ilamont.com/2008/11/my-new-journalism-experiment.... ). It's basically a paragraph of explanatory text that the author places at the end of the article, identifying what sources he/she used in the course of researching the article. It looked something like this. Sources cited, referenced, or consulted: Blog.…

You've re-invented a chunk of project Xanadu:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Xanadu

Congratulations!

Re: Plagiarism

#235

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we have a strict policy in place to make sure this doesn't happen. If it does, and it really shouldn't have beyond a year ago (when we really clamped down on it with our authors)... we fix it. If it ever does happen, I assure you that all it takes is one email to office@thenextweb.com and we'll have it resolved. But I assure you that this "care free" image you might have of us when it comes to posting other peoples i…

You really don't get it do you? > If it ever does happen, I assure you that all it takes is one email to office@thenextweb.com and we'll have it resolved. I'm sure it does. But the point is that you should ensure through process and not through policy that you do not end up with other people's stuff on your site without attribution or compensation. The fact that you'll take it down to avoid further damage is not enou…

No, he really doesn't get it.

From his public "apology"[1]:

"The debate on paraphrasing, rewriting and quoting we should save for another post."

Zee: THAT'S THE PLAGIARISM PART.

[1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M92qqFrK2zlqCoaQV_l_wuxI...

Re: Plagiarism

#236

Update: image credit added after I posted this. Still, the image should be removed, this is copyright infringement. TheNextWeb is infamous for plagiarizing images for that section. Take this article, for example: http://thenextweb.com/entrepreneur/2011/05/23/stylish-techno... The image at the top of the article is taken from this Dustin Curtis blog post: http://www.dustincurtis.com/press_on.html (the filename of the…

we have a strict policy in place to make sure this doesn't happen. If it does, and it really shouldn't have beyond a year ago (when we really clamped down on it with our authors)... we fix it. If it ever does happen, I assure you that all it takes is one email to office@thenextweb.com and we'll have it resolved. But I assure you that this "care free" image you might have of us when it comes to posting other peoples i…

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Re: Plagiarism

#238

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Strange that this has been greyed out? Not condoning the act of plagiarism but seems fairer to allow all parties to say their bits?

It's our way of voicing very clear disagreement. Anyone who wants to read his words still can.

You think otherwise he might not know people disagree? Voting really shouldn't be punitive to people with unpopular opinions.
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