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Post by hagbard_c »

Anotheroneagain wrote: post #48
n4r9 wrote: post #41

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I don't understand... "obesity" has been "contradicted by practical experience"? Or do you mean the idea that following a calorie-restricted diet leads to weight loss?

Yes. That it's caused by eating too much.

For the vast majority of obese people the cause lies in overeating - especially where it concerns high-fat and -sugar foods - and the cure in eating less and to a certain (but lesser) extent getting more physical exercise. There are people for whom this does not hold as they gain weight due to other reasons - thyroid problems, Prader-Willi syndrome, Cushings syndrome, 'side effects' of medication they take for other conditions and more - but these are the exceptions to the rule.

What do you think is the main cause for obesity?

Re: What Is Enlightenment? (1784)

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Post by horrysith »

agumonkey wrote: post #38
FrankyHollywood wrote: post #31

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Indeed, I was never aware of it, until Covid... millions of people believing in nano-bots raining from the clouds programmed by Bill Gates and many other unbelievable far fetched idea's, people just believed it like it was common knowledge. And the false believes have far reaching impact, like polarization in society and deaths. Just today I read that Dutch vaccination rates are lower than ever [1]. Diseases like pol…

I experienced and saw it with the crypto bubble too. It was near guru level of mania and belief. Very telling.

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Re: What Is Enlightenment? (1784)

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Post by Anotheroneagain »

hagbard_c wrote: post #51
Anotheroneagain wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. That it's caused by eating too much.

For the vast majority of obese people the cause lies in overeating - especially where it concerns high-fat and -sugar foods - and the cure in eating less and to a certain (but lesser) extent getting more physical exercise. There are people for whom this does not hold as they gain weight due to other reasons - thyroid problems, Prader-Willi syndrome, Cushings syndrome, 'side effects' of medication they take for other…

Famine doesn't mean the absence of food. There is often plenty, but the food is inadequate. The skeletal children are often basically propaganda, they refuse to show the real ones. They look fat, and they fear they wouldn't get anything. I believe it is the same thing. The signs are the same.

Re: What Is Enlightenment? (1784)

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Post by Anotheroneagain »

froh wrote: post #50
Anotheroneagain wrote: post #16

For a long time I've seen Kant as someone who deeply misunderstood the Enlightenment. It was specifically meant to free people of this endless bickering over some scripture or other abstract issue, and told them see for themselves. But science has long descended back into "rationalism" (what an unfortunate term), and is no better than what the enlightenment fought against.

so do you meanwhile recognize him as one of the guys who started the age of enlightenment and defined what it is? with, for example this very essay that is referenced here? which is one of the groundbreaking philosophical works of that epoch?

I believe that might not be historically accurate, he is only convenient for those who want to undo the changes.

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Post by coffeeaddict1 »

emblaegh wrote: post #30
mbivert wrote: post #27

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It's deeper than that: the vast majority of people believe in science in the exact same way as the used to believe in Christianism. Try asking around for bulletproof proofs of the Earth's roundness. Or communicating the idea that time and space aren't really distinct entities. Side note, but horoscopes aren't fully to be thrown away[0]. IIRC the main idea was that the month of birth is/was related to seasonal human a…

> It's deeper than that: the vast majority of people believe in science in the exact same way as the used to believe in Christianism. Try asking around for bulletproof proofs of the Earth's roundness. Or communicating the idea that time and space aren't really distinct entities. I'm not so sure. The common person definitely cannot give scientific explanations for most things, but between modern medicine, computers an…

> modern medicine, computers and all else, society is drowning in very hard proof that science is an effective and worthwhile endeavour, in a way that i don't think most religion is

I'm not sure this is a good argument. Science "works" in the same way religion "works" for many people.

Re: What Is Enlightenment? (1784)

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Post by n4r9 »

Anotheroneagain wrote: post #53
hagbard_c wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the vast majority of obese people the cause lies in overeating - especially where it concerns high-fat and -sugar foods - and the cure in eating less and to a certain (but lesser) extent getting more physical exercise. There are people for whom this does not hold as they gain weight due to other reasons - thyroid problems, Prader-Willi syndrome, Cushings syndrome, 'side effects' of medication they take for other…

Famine doesn't mean the absence of food. There is often plenty, but the food is inadequate. The skeletal children are often basically propaganda, they refuse to show the real ones. They look fat, and they fear they wouldn't get anything. I believe it is the same thing. The signs are the same.

Didn't that professor lose 27 pounds on a diet of twinkies just to show it's all about calories? Marc Haub, after googling it
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