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Re: Plagiarism

#211

Zee again. Full response: http://bit.ly/JxoWae

"keep your mouth shut until you know all the facts" I think you learned a hard lesson here, but it's one that many of us had to learn the hard way. It's good to see an apology.

"It's good to see an apology."

After reading the response I feel he was avoiding giving a proper apology. Only thing he apologizes is that he didn't have all the information at first, which is a kind of non-apology.

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#212
A CEO should never respond to a situation in that way. He lost his cool; big time! I have always respected TNW, but today changes that.

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#213
post #112

Zee/TheNextWeb has a history of copying others' work without permission, including for one period HN comments. See: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=640492 Note that what I was concerned about was not respectful excerpting: for a time, they were scraping every HN comment related to their links back to their site, without permission/notification to authors, without threading, with NOFOLLOW.

Thanks for linking to this. Looks like there's a pattern here. Too bad for Zee.

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue is you did not credit him initially. Are you saying that he was credited in the initial publication of the article and his screenshots that show this is not the case are fabricated?

This. It makes a huge difference whether you credit someone right from the beginning or just after he points it out to you.

It doesn't just make a huge difference - it's a different thing entirely. Credit where credit is due, initially and up front, is being honest. Changing it after and pretending like it was like that the whole time is trying to cover up your own actions - that's arguably even worse than the initial plagarism. (At best it shows the same underhanded streak as the plagarism itself.)

Completely despicable. Added TNW to my hosts file.

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#217
post #16

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Why do employees (and apparently CEOs) of online tech publications always seem to have so much trouble with basic English grammar/spelling? "I honestly absolutely no idea what we should have done differently" "We work immensely had to product original content"

I have a theory on this point, after witnessing this effect in a few other places (emails from prominent writers, CEOs, etc). Writers write so much that their fear of shipping their writing is diminished through practice, so they write, ship, write, ship, write, ship. They're in creative mode, just putting words on the paper. They're busy, so they go quickly, so that they can get more done. They know that when it mat…

> Move fast and break things. Edit later.

Ironically, you can't edit posts on Facebook.

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#218
How is some anonymous Google Doc posted on the comments section of a Hacker News item an apology????

Make it public on front page of TNW.com

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#219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You really don't get it do you? > If it ever does happen, I assure you that all it takes is one email to office@thenextweb.com and we'll have it resolved. I'm sure it does. But the point is that you should ensure through process and not through policy that you do not end up with other people's stuff on your site without attribution or compensation. The fact that you'll take it down to avoid further damage is not enou…

We do have processes AND policy in place to make sure this doesn't happen. But it can still happen unintentionally and when it does, we react activity and proactively.

Proactive and reactive are complete opposites. You cannot 'react' 'proactively'.

Re: Plagiarism

#220

There needs to be some sort of standard for citing other peoples work, sort of like an updated Chicago Manual of Style ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citation#Citation_styles ) for online publications. These days we have all these content mills that put out very little original work... I don't know what the proper method should be, how much work you can take etc. Also remember this - The New York Times spent weeks wr…

> There needs to be some sort of standard for citing other peoples work

You mean like , , , ...

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