Zee has apologized.
Plagiarism
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Re: Plagiarism
#202Where are all the people defending "piracy" on this post? How much effort were a few paragraphs that got copied vs how much effort does it take to produce a movie, or a professionally recorded song?
Here we go again! Piracy and plagiarism are different things. Piracy is when you copy something without permission. Plagiarism is when you fail to attribute a source. Piracy as we discuss it here almost never involves plagiarism. Have you ever seen a movie torrent where the movie was claimed to be produced by some pirate group instead of the actual movie studio that really made it? I've never even heard of such a thi…
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
we have a strict policy in place to make sure this doesn't happen. If it does, and it really shouldn't have beyond a year ago (when we really clamped down on it with our authors)... we fix it. If it ever does happen, I assure you that all it takes is one email to office@thenextweb.com and we'll have it resolved. But I assure you that this "care free" image you might have of us when it comes to posting other peoples i…
Strange that this has been greyed out? Not condoning the act of plagiarism but seems fairer to allow all parties to say their bits?
I do wish this wasn't downvoted to grey. This is content I think most of us will find interesting and relevant to the discussion.
I understand that HN allows downvotes of disagreement, even though in this case it buries the most relevant information.
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#204HN has the readership to effect positive change in the tech journalism arena. Can HN blacklist the most egregarious plagiarists?
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#205Update: see this comment on HN. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3972875 Zee from TNW here. Someone has to explain to me exactly what we should have done differently here. I honestly have absolutely no idea what we should have done differently here to illustrate an interesting fact with our readers and reference the original source (we did that twice in the article...even with his full name (a screenshot of which…
> I'm honestly amazed that this is crawling up Hacker News quite frankly.
C'mon, it's never been pointed out that you're kind of a douche? Seriously, never?
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#206All these shitheel sites do the same thing. BusinessInsider often doesn't even do the work of lightly rewriting paragraphs, they just rip content off wholesale. It's a dirty game, but I dunno if much can be done to stop it. The CEO's reaction is a disaster unto itself. Shameful.
We could block them from HN...
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#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's a new breed of CEOs who use 'ur' in public correspondence. If that isn't a red flag, I don't know what is.
I'm not bothered much by "ur" (since it's Twitter, and you have only 140 characters) than by his tone.
He was able to get around the 140-char limit fine by bombarding OP with replies.
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#208Update: image credit added after I posted this. Still, the image should be removed, this is copyright infringement. TheNextWeb is infamous for plagiarizing images for that section. Take this article, for example: http://thenextweb.com/entrepreneur/2011/05/23/stylish-techno... The image at the top of the article is taken from this Dustin Curtis blog post: http://www.dustincurtis.com/press_on.html (the filename of the…
we have a strict policy in place to make sure this doesn't happen. If it does, and it really shouldn't have beyond a year ago (when we really clamped down on it with our authors)... we fix it. If it ever does happen, I assure you that all it takes is one email to office@thenextweb.com and we'll have it resolved. But I assure you that this "care free" image you might have of us when it comes to posting other peoples i…
Wow, no apology. Wow.
Zee, everyone can see the online record, which shows you plagiarized Joshua Gross, publicly threatened him on Twitter, and then publicly denied plagiarizing him.
And you're still not apologizing?
Wow...
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
How can you not understand what you should have done differently here? You may have linked to the author's post, but by not quoting him, you were passing his work off as your own to anyone who didn't click through to the link. One of your employees fucked up in the first place, and then you made it worse by not admitting what happened was wrong and apologizing. Had you done so, that would have been the end of it. But…
that's a common problem I've been noticing lately. People can't take the blame when they made a mistake. It's whether they blame someone else or they divert the subject. It's so hard to apologize or say "yes, I did it" and then move on.
I've been seeing a lot of that as well. My advice is to stay away from the aggressive response unless the plaintiff is being really nasty.
Being an observant in this web-publishing business for a short while, and speaking only from limited experience, I've witnessed some unfavorable twitter posts in regards to content and how an editorial team treats them. They look into the problem and validate, devise a response through consensus that they deem adequate and one person on the team reaches out and tries to make right.
In Zee's case, it appears that he decided that he "had this one" and went the bully route. That's too bad because since he picked such a great Twitter handle, this clown is going to be hard to forget.
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
And another[1]: You should credit @dexterous for screenshot used @ http://thenextweb.com/in/2012/05/03/indian-isps-reportedly-blocking-access-to-vimeo-and-some-torrent-sites/ Citation: http://twitpic.com/9gr7y9 https://twitter.com/#!/dexterous/status/198036547830947841 [1] https://twitter.com/#!/dnene/statuses/198122429447548928
To clarify: I credited the source where I found the article, quite clearly, in the text prior to the image. I thought (wrongly, it would seem) that Rediff News had produced the image themselves. I did not see the tweet from Dhananjay, and never got an email or anything else about it. Now that I have seen it, I have credited my source, as I always attempt to do.
Thank you for at least mentioning that you work for TNW in your profile. It makes this ...
(http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=bradmccarty)
...less annoying.
Compare that to zeedotme's ...
(http://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=zeedotme)
...which just feels sleazy.