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Plentiful, high-paying jobs in the age of AI

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Re: Plentiful, high-paying jobs in the age of AI

#13
Interesting, but kind of reads like a salve for the anxious.

With as much economic theory as it espoused for the basis of its argument, it's ignoring some pretty critical ones. There is a limit to what people actually need to subsist and labor is currently a massive cost in most industries. If labor can be replaced by AI in the production of the world's needs (and many of its wants), then it seems unlikely there will be much space for "inferior" humans. The idea that limitations in compute will constrain this dynamic also seem misguided. These will be offset by continuous improvement in chip technology and energy production, both of which will be advanced by AI itself, ironically. That last bit is part of what's different about this go around.

The article also relies a lot on history. But, historical observations don't hold in an unbounded fashion. To make the point via exaggeration, if a AA battery could power all of AI's needed compute for a decade, then the technology would be so disruptive with so little downside that there really is no historical precedent to approximate its impact. This illustrates that somewhere along the continuum, we don't have a model for what comes next.

And then there's the quality of AI itself which of course threatens the human advantage that has persisted through all of recorded history. That is, essentially, there's been no greater asset than the human brain. And for the first time that's no longer true.

Plus, I'm not quite sure the historical analogies are correct in the first place. For instance, the move of workers en masse from agriculture to industry happened in part because the industrial revolution demanded more workers. It wasn't that technology dislocated agricultural workers, leaving the world to invent something else for these people to do.

At the end of the article, he makes a point that there is some risk that AI will demand its own means of production. That seems wildly out of step with the rest of the article. That is, if he worries that humans will be in such a subordinate position to AI, it's hard to imagine that AI won't find a way to a place of greater efficiency (which necessarily excludes human labor), then demand that it is the law.

Re: Plentiful, high-paying jobs in the age of AI

#14
Key point:

> If you can create more compute by simply putting more energy into the process, it could make economic sense to starve human beings in order to generate more and more AI... most governments seem likely to limit AI’s ability to hog energy

This is the most likely scenario, and indeed in that scenario saving humans from starvation requires government action. Some governments will do it, some won't. Those that do will be outcompeted by those that don't. Game over.

Re: Plentiful, high-paying jobs in the age of AI

#15
I want to be an AI optimist, but the author makes a few assumptions which I don't think hold up.

Re: comparative advantage... Outsourcing tasks you comparatively prefer not to do doesn't translate into someone paying you for it, if AI is far better at it and 100x cheaper than you are.

Re: AI is location and compute constrained, so people will still be able to get paid for automatable tasks... only for now. And those wages will shrink along with the number of human positions as AI scales.

Re: Plentiful, high-paying jobs in the age of AI

#16
The example of a VC that hires a typist even though he can type faster is apt.

Today almost nobody hires typists because information technology has advanced to the point that it is faster to do it yourself than have to communicate to another human.

On a different point, I doubt that use of AI will be energy-bound any time soon (training is a different matter). Inference cost will drop dramatically as dedicated hardware comes online and algorithms continue to improve.

Re: Plentiful, high-paying jobs in the age of AI

#18
So, no discussion about how competitive advantages push for wealth concentration, so even if there are plenty of jobs, people would still get a tiny piece of the pie and starve.

You see, the reason why people participate on the economy isn't the same reason why some people get rich and others poor.

And yeah, an article about economics ignores some very pressing qualities of AI, like the current energy usage is expected to be a fluke, or it just won't "want" to own the means of production. But yeah, it's about economics, so that's not a huge problem.

Re: Plentiful, high-paying jobs in the age of AI

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I want to be an AI optimist, but the author makes a few assumptions which I don't think hold up. Re: comparative advantage... Outsourcing tasks you comparatively prefer not to do doesn't translate into someone paying you for it, if AI is far better at it and 100x cheaper than you are. Re: AI is location and compute constrained, so people will still be able to get paid for automatable tasks... only for now. And those…

>as AI scales

Yeah, it has the feel of a lot of thinking around AI that doesn't take into account improvements in AI itself.

For instance, the whole idea of "prompt engineer" being a field of the future. Pretty obvious that AI iterations will continue to improve and quickly obviate the need for such a thing.

Feels a bit like humans desperately trying to hold on to our relevance. "Surely the computers must need us for something."

Re: Plentiful, high-paying jobs in the age of AI

#20
This article seems to have a big miss the basic point on exponential technical progress shifting the "comparative constraint" every 18 months.

A $35 raspberry pi AI chess blows away deep blue from algorithmic and compute progress. So the comparative constraint is on a exponential fall off curve not a constant per "more valuable" areas to be automated. Not only that a bright highschool student can research a bit online and build a competitive solution given algorithmic and compute advantages of today vs late 90s

Right now it may cost $10 Dollars in compute and a day guiding GPT4 to productive economic activity; but GPT7-turbo will cost 2c and take 2 min of guidance for equivalent comparative value.

It would make no sense to look at early computers and say phone operators will always have a job because of the comparative cost constraints of automating phone switch boards with computers will use "too much energy" and there are "more valuable things" for computers to do vs low cost of human operators.

Fair to say that jobs will change :)

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