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'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by renegade-otter »

krapp wrote: post #490
renegade-otter wrote: post #489

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The "highly-skilled" assassin is kind of a myth. Most killers-for-hire are idiots. This is Michael Clayton stuff, but the assassination in the movie is much more "elegant".

Most killers-for-hire are undercover cops. But Boeing wouldn't be hiring a guy off of rent-a-hitman.com, they have access to groups like Blackwater who literally murder people for the government as a business. They could just ask for whoever did Epstein or Seth Rich (allegedly.)

I highly doubt that some suit at Boeing picked up the phone and asked the DoD for a reference. It's not how these things go, and it's much more dumb in real life.

Something closer to Fargo.

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Post by ryanwaggoner »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #382
carabiner wrote: post #376

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Even Google assassinated some of its Xooglers. Totally normal.

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/wife-of-google-whistl...

That’s some ridiculous tinfoil hat conspiracy theory nonsense.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by Two4 »

dzonga wrote: post #427
glenstein wrote: post #395

I feel like when there is financial malfeasance, we find enough cases of it in the wild to document that it has really happened. Whether it's Enron, or stories of lobbyists and politicians acting in self interest in ways that break the law, or even just municipal officials embezzling, we have known cases of that. So if you ever have the feeling that big financial transactions might be ethically questionable, you can…

if Boeing wasn't a major defense contractor -- then yeah. you could easily say suicide. but since they're in bed with 3 letter agencies. it becomes a whole different game altogether. since there's a 3 letter agency that has nailed the assassination game to a T. whether on home soil or abroad.

At the nexus of defense contractors, arms brokers, intelligence and private military contractors, there exist the kind of men who have spent many years doing dirty deeds for various masters, and have no scruples if the pay is right. They have access to the resources, knowledge and connections required to kill someone and not get caught. They operate in a deniable manner, free of the paper trails and accountability of any government entity, but still operate at the same level. These men would be eminently accessible with only one or two degrees of separation for an executive of a defense contractor

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Post by mlrtime »

TaylorAlexander wrote: post #459
Loughla wrote: post #426

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All joking aside, was there anything in the Epstein case to indicate foul play or is it just a meme? I can't find anything reputable.

> is there anything in the Epstein case to indicate foul play We have no evidence. It is more that Epstein knew a lot of bad things about some of the most powerful people in the country. It makes sense that they would have wanted him killed, or even that they would have wanted to fake his death to make the court case go away. People who would kill to save themselves would be just as likely to kill a drifter and give…

Technically there is a lot of evidence, it is all circumstantial.

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

ryanwaggoner wrote: post #493
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #382

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https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/wife-of-google-whistl...

That’s some ridiculous tinfoil hat conspiracy theory nonsense.

The entire purpose of my post is to demonstrate how mundane and common these kinds of murders are

When a Putin defector falls out of a window nobody questions why - they understand that it’s connected. Why? It has happened enough times that the likelihood of coincidental tragedy and aggression toward the existing economic power structure (irrespective of what it is) are too high to be non-causally influenced.

There’s also this false sense of “that kind of stuff only happens in corrupt/backward/non-advanced/… cultures, not our culture of justice and virtue” which is just demonstrably and statistically wrong

US funded and headquartered corporations don’t dominate the world cause they are that great and make the best product at the best price. It’s cause they are the most ruthless

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by ryanwaggoner »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #497
ryanwaggoner wrote: post #493

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That’s some ridiculous tinfoil hat conspiracy theory nonsense.

The entire purpose of my post is to demonstrate how mundane and common these kinds of murders are When a Putin defector falls out of a window nobody questions why - they understand that it’s connected. Why? It has happened enough times that the likelihood of coincidental tragedy and aggression toward the existing economic power structure (irrespective of what it is) are too high to be non-causally influenced. There’s…

The idea that Google engineered the murder of the wife of a whistleblower (who had already testified) by staging a fake traffic accident in the rain is ridiculous and nonsensical.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by Slava_Propanei »

unyttigfjelltol wrote: post #449
superb-owl wrote: post #400

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It reminds me closely of Gary Webb's death, though the circumstances are different: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Webb#Death But more to your question, I think a great example of corporate self-interest leading to serious crimes is the Ebay stalking scandal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal

Ah, WaPo debunked Gary's accurate critique of the CIA, rendering the whole thing a conspiracy theory. I expect nothing less of the CIA but seriously, is WaPo anything more than a blight on journalism?

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