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Elizabeth Goodspeed on the delicate art of nostalgia in branding

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Re: Elizabeth Goodspeed on the delicate art of nostalgia in branding

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A visual for anyone else wondering: https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/Tf2UyZUq7HHao7LJv3fANo-970...

It's worth noting that this isn't a direct comparison.

The packaging (tin versus squeezy bottle) isn't changing — they already sell both.

Only the labels are changing, and they're keeping the tin (specifically) unchanged: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68347249

Re: Elizabeth Goodspeed on the delicate art of nostalgia in branding

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A visual for anyone else wondering: https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/Tf2UyZUq7HHao7LJv3fANo-970...

It's worth noting that this isn't a direct comparison. The packaging (tin versus squeezy bottle) isn't changing — they already sell both. Only the labels are changing, and they're keeping the tin (specifically) unchanged: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68347249

If there was ever a good rebranding that stays true to history it's this one. A dead lion swarming with insects isn't the most appetizing thing. A lion with a bee reminds of the story in a tasteful way. They could have kept the biblical quote.

Re: Elizabeth Goodspeed on the delicate art of nostalgia in branding

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worth noting that this isn't a direct comparison. The packaging (tin versus squeezy bottle) isn't changing — they already sell both. Only the labels are changing, and they're keeping the tin (specifically) unchanged: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68347249

If there was ever a good rebranding that stays true to history it's this one. A dead lion swarming with insects isn't the most appetizing thing. A lion with a bee reminds of the story in a tasteful way. They could have kept the biblical quote.

For me it completely loses what made the original special, specifically that it wasn't appetizing. The juxtaposition was delightful and I would often buy jars of it for a laugh. Now it"s just another sweet syrup among many.

Re: Elizabeth Goodspeed on the delicate art of nostalgia in branding

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This is especially tricky and maybe entirely impossible these days. For instance, in England now it's considered poor form to simply display nice landscapes. Why? They evoke "dark nationalistic feelings." If simply looking at some pictures of trees and a valley do that, how can a brand manager come up with something that's not a hot button?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/paintings-british-countryside-evo...

Re: Elizabeth Goodspeed on the delicate art of nostalgia in branding

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That one visual is far better than the original article, which blithers about this change without showing it. It's not even clear how that package is used. Do you invert it and snap open the brown plastic flap, or what? Was that just concept art, or did they actually sell that. What they seem to be selling now is a minor mod to the 19th century design.[1] [1] https://www.amazon.com/Lyles-Squeezy-Golden-Syrup-325g/dp/…

Agree that the picture is worth a 1000 words, but per kingkongjaffa, one is a squeezy bottle while the other is a robust tin. My dad used to have dozens of the tins in his shed, each holding a collection of screws, washers, resistors, capacitors, bolts etc 'that will come in useful one day'. I still can't see the tins without thinking of his re-use collections. That's my biggest gripe with the new container: it's a s…

Haha, I think every household in the UK had these tins filled with screws :D

The tins keep the old branding, for now.

Only the squeezies get the new branding.

I don't get that they went from a serif to a lifeless san-serif font on a vintage brand like Lyle's, though. It loses a lot of soul with that transition and wasn't necessary.

Re: Elizabeth Goodspeed on the delicate art of nostalgia in branding

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> In 2021, Bahlsen’s redesign was acclaimed by the design community for its clean, bold modernity (even winning them a D&AD award). Nonetheless, the rebrand resulted in a 12% drop in sales the following year. This decline was attributed to a variety of factors: low on-shelf recognition, reduced emotional resonance, and smaller, less appetising photos than the original, “dated” packaging. In other words, even if the branding was good, it didn’t feel right.

Or, you know, maybe sales dropped, because inflation caused by Russia invading Ukraine hit and people spent less money on more expensive foods like Bahlsen cookies.

Re: Elizabeth Goodspeed on the delicate art of nostalgia in branding

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post #18

> In 2021, Bahlsen’s redesign was acclaimed by the design community for its clean, bold modernity (even winning them a D&AD award). Nonetheless, the rebrand resulted in a 12% drop in sales the following year. This decline was attributed to a variety of factors: low on-shelf recognition, reduced emotional resonance, and smaller, less appetising photos than the original, “dated” packaging. In other words, even if the b…

And while talking about Bahlsen: Check out their stylish, yet utterly unusable website: https://www.bahlsen.com/

Re: Elizabeth Goodspeed on the delicate art of nostalgia in branding

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A visual for anyone else wondering: https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/Tf2UyZUq7HHao7LJv3fANo-970...

That one visual is far better than the original article, which blithers about this change without showing it. It's not even clear how that package is used. Do you invert it and snap open the brown plastic flap, or what? Was that just concept art, or did they actually sell that. What they seem to be selling now is a minor mod to the 19th century design.[1] [1] https://www.amazon.com/Lyles-Squeezy-Golden-Syrup-325g/dp/…

> That one visual is far better than the original article, which blithers about this change without showing it.

What do you expect, she showed it to her followers and they hated her for it. It's also on a site that introduces the owner by name every post.

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