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Re: Debloat non-rooted Android devices

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Related Android equivalent commands used in this project:

  `dpkg --get-selections`: `adb shell pm list packages | sort`
  `dpkg -r `: `adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 `
edit: to hide status bar icons(may be version dependent):

  1) `adb shell dumpsys activity service SystemUIService`
  2) search for "icon slots: " and note down names
  3) `adb shell settings put secure icon_blacklist battery,wifi,clock, ...` (blacklist is overwritten by new list upon running this command)

Re: Debloat non-rooted Android devices

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IMHO better to root if you can, since then you do get full control as the rightful owner.

Some banking apps detect this, or might detect it in the future, and refuse to work. In some countries (Scandinavia...) not having the banking app is inconvenient, as it's used for authentication with many other services.

That's a bold understatement, you're pretty much fucked without BankID on your phone.

Re: Debloat non-rooted Android devices

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I bought -- full price, retail -- a midrange Samsung phone for a relative recently. The amount of bloatware was incredible. Various social networks and shopping apps were preinstalled. In addition to all the Samsung apps that more or less duplicate the Google stack, poorly. The entire setup process was full of dark patterns designed to extract as much data from you as possible. No way a regular person gets through th…

The first time I had a samsung phone I noticed after about two weeks that every single word I typed into any application was being collected and sent to a third party whose privacy policy said it was used to collect data about my interests, my social life, to make guesses about my intelligence level and education, and that the data would be sold for "market research" among other things. No user would ever suspect tha…

> I noticed after about two weeks that every single word I typed into any application was being collected and sent to a third party

How did you discover this? Has it been written about? Seems pretty scandalous.

Re: Debloat non-rooted Android devices

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This is a user/psychology problem. No one in their right mind is suggesting Samsung. Heck, similar to Apple, you have swaths of people warning you about Samsung. Samsung lives and dies off their huge marketing budget. Buying their phone is more of a psychology thing, than 'I did lots of research and I bought a high quality phone'.

What android brand are people going with? I thought Samsung was the biggest alternative to pixels

I'm real tempted to go asus because of how good their other devices have been, will see what happens this time. Tired of my pixels constantly overheating when trying to take pictures after navigating to a place i want to take pictures with the 4a+5a. It's not just a bad phone, I've inevitably broken a screen or submerged one and had to replace it (apparently the ip68 isn't fool proof either..)

Re: Debloat non-rooted Android devices

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Why is it not possible to compile and install a complete clean Android directly from the sources on your phone? What are the things that prevent that?

Hardware support.

Lazy vendors single handedly keeping windows and android going with their lack of cross platform drivers, so frustrating....

Re: Debloat non-rooted Android devices

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It will either make your phone unstable or do nothing significant.

Tell us you've never run this on a Samsung without telling us you've never run this on a Samsung.

Don’t mind me saying it, but I’ve always found this comeback insufferable. It is smug, especially since it is overused as an argument terminator all over Reddit.

In this case I actually agree with your “side” of the argument, but not the construct.

Re: Debloat non-rooted Android devices

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Oh dear. I had disabled the Samsung keyboard for some other, but it seems it got reenabled again. Maybe Google broke some API endpoint and the old keyboard didn't do the update grind. No warning what so ever for their spyware taking over the keyboard functionally. The need for some FOSS mobile is really over due by now. Edit: > I immediately found an open source keyboard to replace samsung's with Which keyboard did y…

AnySoftKeyboard I've been using it ever since. It's got a lot of customization options and all the keys I need.

Thanks. It seems good.

I did the mistake of trying to find one via Google Play. It pushes so much malware to the top and wont allow you to filter the search. Discoverability there is zero.

It is like I always forgot I need to use fdroid and open Play by muscle memory.

Re: Debloat non-rooted Android devices

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first time I had a samsung phone I noticed after about two weeks that every single word I typed into any application was being collected and sent to a third party whose privacy policy said it was used to collect data about my interests, my social life, to make guesses about my intelligence level and education, and that the data would be sold for "market research" among other things. No user would ever suspect tha…

> I noticed after about two weeks that every single word I typed into any application was being collected and sent to a third party How did you discover this? Has it been written about? Seems pretty scandalous.

He goes on to explain it was in the keyboards About menu
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