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Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by timlod »

cqqxo4zV46cp wrote: post #327
ryukoposting wrote: post #279

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I agree with your point in principle, and yet I installed Ubuntu on my work laptop this January after using Windows professionally for my entire (5 year) career. I've found myself moving in the opposite direction from the person in the root comment, because I find that it's getting harder and harder to find tolerable proprietary software. It feels like everything is glacially slow, laden with ads and tracking, relian…

I mean this in the nicest possible way: 5 years is likely not long enough for the “just work, stupid” desire to really, really, really set in. Nor is a couple of months enough time for the potential rough edges of desktop Linux to set in.

I’ve been using Windows throughout my childhood and start of my CS career - now I use Windows for specific software (audio/music) and Linux for developing (about 8 years I guess). I had a 1-year stint with macOS because I was developing an iOS app, and have been the troubleshooter for people with macs at my previous job, so I consider myself somewhat ‘multilingual’ when it concerns OSs.

As a power user, Linux is just so much nicer. I constantly get frustrated, especially with macOS, about stuff that I can’t easily. In Linux my stuff works and if it doesn’t it can be made to work (usually). In Windows/Mac it’ll often take considerable effort to make the system work the way I want, or it’s just not possible.

I think with proprietary software ‘it just works’ is only a thing if you’re happy with the basic experience that is tuned to the average person. If you have more complex needs, you should be using Linux (and if you know your stuff or use the right distro, things will likely also ‘just work’).

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by jen729w »

bpye wrote: post #414
precommunicator wrote: post #363

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Nothing beats the convenience of unplugging a drive and plugging it to a next computer and it just works, within seconds you have everything ready for work.

Is there a good file system for this? For macOS I’d want APFS, for Linux ext4, Windows NTFS (maybe ReFS?). You can typically get read only access between them, and I know Linux can do RW with NTFS - but I’m not aware of a good option.

exFAT? It’s not perfect but it’s widely compatible.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by jillesvangurp »

steve1977 wrote: post #98

I gotta say, 10 or 15 years ago, Mac OS X would have been worth the effort and it was basically what justified buying Apple hardware for me. Nowadays, if anything, it's the hardware that justifies buying Apple, and the operating systems are something I can live with. I don't see any compelling reason to use macOS on non-Apple hardware today (except hacking for hackings sake)

Same here. Of course, now that we have the M1 and the likely eventual deprecation of x86 for new versions of Mac OS, things like Hackintosh are a bit doomed. If you have an M1, you'd be runnig MacOS (or Linux) and would have no need for it. If you don't, MacOS is not going to run great on it and very soon not at all. So, it's one of those things that you wouldn't use unless you really needed to. And finally, support for running mac os in virtual machines is kind of getting there. It's still made hard by Apple and only supported on their own hardware. But it's not impossible and there are some legitimate use cases (e.g. building IOS apps in the cloud). Maybe eventually somebody will figure out emulation on non Apple hardware. I think there are some efforts on QEMU. Of course the issue will be emulating enough of Apple Silicon properly.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by baq »

indymike wrote: post #343
TylerE wrote: post #273

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That would be a firing offense at my company. Company files stay on company hardware. Personal files stay on personal hardware, and never should the two meet.

I would never work at your company. I use my own tools, thank you.

My personal vim config on a company laptop? No problem whatsoever, neither for me, nor the company.

A bittorrent client without preauthorization with IT and security? It's basically asking to get fired.

My vacation photos on a company laptop? Tricky - not a huge deal but not recommended. Better upload them to your cloud backup quickly.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by phatskat »

steve1977 wrote: post #408
golergka wrote: post #284

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You can, theoretically. In practice, a lot of tools like Logic and specific VSTs are macos-only, and CoreAudio actually "just works" out of the box without having to manually install and setup all kinds of alternative low-latency drivers.

> CoreAudio actually "just works" out of the box If Apple is not messing up their USB subsystem like they did with Ventura, where people basically had to wait a whole major release until they got stable performance again with Sonoma. Or if they don’t break iLok copy protection, like they just did with 14.4 And for professional hardware, you don’t have to install “all kinds of alternative drivers”. You just install th…

Having used all three major OS’s for music at different times, MacOS is still my go-to. There just isn’t the futzing I had to do on windows. Linux was actually a contender for me back in the day - I feel like MIDI routing on Linux is just easier[1] although older OSX touting was also very good imo. I kept my G4 tower going for a looooong time because I had just the right setup of tools and hacks to do everything I needed to where windows wouldn’t cut it and no one wrote the drivers I used for Linux.

These days I don’t tinker like I used to and mostly just need simple MIDI routing and something that can copy renders from my mixer, so anything will work. I still prefer the ease of MacOS though I can do everything I need to on any OS

[1] the main drawback for Linux was really a lack of good docs for things like PD, and not having access to Live. If I’d had Reaper back then it might have been my daily driver.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by throwaway2037 »

resource_waste wrote: post #418
ryukoposting wrote: post #279

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I agree with your point in principle, and yet I installed Ubuntu on my work laptop this January after using Windows professionally for my entire (5 year) career. I've found myself moving in the opposite direction from the person in the root comment, because I find that it's getting harder and harder to find tolerable proprietary software. It feels like everything is glacially slow, laden with ads and tracking, relian…

FYI, Ubuntu is a heavily advertised distro. Its pretty bottom barrel for quality. If you want a modern linux distro, try Fedora Cinnamon or something that isnt on Debian branch.

It is not surprising that you posted this flame bait from a throwaway account.

What is wrong with Debian?

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by exe34 »

astrange wrote: post #376
exe34 wrote: post #288

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Yeah I'll learn as much as I absolutely have to in order to get my paycheck. Any more and you need to give me a raise.

That's not a good way to make money. It's not how FAANG pays people, and if it is how your employer pays people then you should always be learning so you can change to better jobs. A funny thing about "never work for free" advice is that a lot of highly paid jobs (investment banking, high end escorts) are about doing tons of client work for free in a way that eventually gets them to pay you way too much when they do…

I learn the interesting stuff, I just don't learn proprietary tech that I really don't ever want to be dependent on for my wages.

In fact most of the essential skills for my job I've learnt in my own time, and continue to learn. I invest my own money in equipment and training courses. I love learning. But only when it's interesting to me, not because it'll make more money to somebody else. If it'll make you more money, pay me.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by risico »

When I first delved into programming, I was under the impression that OSX was necessary because most programming video tutorials were recorded on a Mac. This led to a minor obsession with acquiring one. Unfortunately, financial constraints were a significant barrier, leading me to explore Hackintosh as my sole option. Countless days and nights were invested in making it work properly. Despite the challenges, the learning experience and the satisfaction of eventually getting everything to function smoothly made the entire process immensely rewarding.

10/10 would do again, if I were 14. Now I am way older, 3 macbooks around and wish my job would let me use Linux.

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