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Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by TylerE »

suslik wrote: post #419
jonathankoren wrote: post #394

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You're own tools are your own personal files? Interesting. How do your vacation pictures help you do your job?

Not the OP, but personal files are not just vacation pictures. I work in R&D and I have my org-mode/roam on various scientific and technical topics going back 15 years or so. I use these for work to benefit my current company, and maintaining two parallel versions of these is rather inconvenient.

Isn’t that exactly what a cloud drive is for? There’s a difference between using your personal notes for business purposes on the one hand, and keeping company property and data on a machine totally outside IT control. That’s just a massive lawsuit waiting to happen, and it’s bad for the employee too - why would you want the liability?

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by suslik »

TylerE wrote: post #421
suslik wrote: post #419

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not the OP, but personal files are not just vacation pictures. I work in R&D and I have my org-mode/roam on various scientific and technical topics going back 15 years or so. I use these for work to benefit my current company, and maintaining two parallel versions of these is rather inconvenient.

Isn’t that exactly what a cloud drive is for? There’s a difference between using your personal notes for business purposes on the one hand, and keeping company property and data on a machine totally outside IT control. That’s just a massive lawsuit waiting to happen, and it’s bad for the employee too - why would you want the liability?

I would't store company data or code outside of approval services, but one might say that my notes, including notes on the people I meet and projects I work on, can constitute proprietary information - so yeah, it is a bit of a grey area still.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by josteink »

mattl wrote: post #369
ghoover1978 wrote: post #350

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I think that everyone knows that's a pretty ridiculous statement. Installing Windows 11 is basically putting in a USB stick, waiting about 8 minutes, clicking a few things and typing out your login and password. I love Linux, first started playing with it about 20 years ago now. There's not a single dist I've ever seen that is that simple. Just a basic fact, sorry.

As I found out this week, making the Windows 11 USB stick is far harder than it ought to be if you don’t have Windows already.

If you use UEFI, all you need is to copy the files from the ISO over to the USB stick.

Am I missing something?

(And the same applies to UEFI capable Linux-distros)

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by yieldcrv »

steve1977 wrote: post #413
yieldcrv wrote: post #364

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amusing but that hasn’t been my experience just in case anyone is on the fence. Apple’s developer network effects are real and impressive, people updated… nearly everything… so quickly! plus with Rosetta under the hood translations to x86 binaries expand everything runnable to seamlessly I thought I would miss bootcamo but I dont. I have yet to install ARM Windows but I’m hearing praises about that now from relativel…

How is this related to network effects?

because it means enough people were spurred into action because they already use this ecosystem

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by resource_waste »

mmcnl wrote: post #224
zozbot234 wrote: post #191

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> Linux is only free if your time is worthless! This argument is quite out of date. You'll lose a whole lot more time on forced Windows 10/11 updates than you'd spend managing a reasonable Linux installation. ("Reasonable" meaning avoid things like Arch or Ubuntu, and pick decent, natively supported hardware.)

This is absolutely false. I run dual-boot Windows and Linux on hardware that has 100% Linux support. Windows just works, the same cannot be said for Linux unless all you do is use a browser and listen to Spotify.

Let me take a guess:

You have exclusively used Debian-family distros.

Try a desktop distro like Fedora. Debian-family is a server distro that got famous after Conical/Ubuntu did marketing really hard.

Ubuntu is the Apple of Linux, they are famous from marketing, not quality.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by nxobject »

johnklos wrote: post #270

Some of the first Hackintoshes, and the origin of the term "Hackintosh", were from the practice of putting Mac motherboards in to non-Mac cases, often using non-Mac hardware. For instance, "Macintosh Repair & Upgrade Secrets" showed me how to use a TTL / Hercules monitor with a motherboard that came out of a Mac Classic with a broken picture tube. I used that machine for years. > While I knew about and even tried var…

Have you read Bob Brant's Build Your Own Macintosh and Save a Bundle [1]? The man was a proponent of having the only Apple part in your build be the logic board, and using as many commodity PC parts as possible – I remember one of the builds started with a Macintosh SE logic board that ran "headless" with a (Radius?) video card in a generic AT/XT case, with everything else (drives, PSU, etc.) commodity PC. Pure wizardry, and he somehow managed to make the numbers add up cheaper than first-party Apple even when adding accelerators to your build.

[1] https://vintageapple.org/macbooks/pdf/Build_Your_Own_Macinto...

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by WWLink »

dataflow wrote: post #285
ryukoposting wrote: post #279

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I agree with your point in principle, and yet I installed Ubuntu on my work laptop this January after using Windows professionally for my entire (5 year) career. I've found myself moving in the opposite direction from the person in the root comment, because I find that it's getting harder and harder to find tolerable proprietary software. It feels like everything is glacially slow, laden with ads and tracking, relian…

"There is valuable knowledge worth learning in the technology" != "this is strictly better software on every axis and you should switch to it for your daily work"

As someone that learned to program on BSD and shortly thereafter, Mac OS X and Linux....

I honestly don't know how people use Windows machines as a dev environment 24/7. It would drive me mad. Everything's so wonky and weird. Everything from symlinks to file permissions is just backwards and fucky.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by sbuk »

viraptor wrote: post #398
macintux wrote: post #322

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> Building your first machine is fun, building your 10th is less so. Building a Linux box led me back to Apple. I had been using UNIX at home, school and work for several years, and decided it was time to build my 3rd Linux box. Went to CompUSA out of idle curiosity to see what equipment they had, and the only computer in the store with Internet access was a Mac. I hadn't used a Mac since the SE/30 days, and I sudden…

> Why build a Linux box and be locked out of tools like Photoshop That's what VMs are for. You're never really locked out. It may not make sense to go that way if Photoshop is THE thing you work with of course. > when I could have UNIX workstation that ran commercial software Because for lots of software MacOS is a second class system. Partially because there's just no way to test things on it without investing lots…

> If you're doing lots of sysadmin / software maintenance style work, MacOS just provides unnecessary pain.

Amazingly a significant amount of the software that you use on a daily basis, perhaps unwittingly, is developed and maintained with macOS and Windows!

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by akho »

willdr wrote: post #289
blfr wrote: post #261

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I also use Linux on all my machines but that's because (perhaps after years of tinkering) it is currently the most turn-key laptop/desktop OS. Things just work, they don't break without a good reason, and weird limitations don't randomly pop up. Windows at work, despite being maintained by professional helpdesk staff, or Macs my family have, with all the ease of use designed by Apple in California , are not like that…

If you sincerely believe this, you've tinkered enough that the massive knowledge barrier that is Linux seems like nothing to you. I would never sit my 70 year old mother down in front of a Linux machine. We're not at "caring that video files download too slowly" - we're at "how do I put a file on a USB".

I do sit my 75-y.o. mother in front of a Linux machine, and it's fine.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by neonsunset »

Perhaps author wants to follow OpenCore guides more closely, especially the hardware buyer's ones - the experience could have been vastly different. There are a lot of (cheap!) wireless PCIE cards that both work on Windows and macOS (they are refurbished Mac Pro parts), I've used one for years and iServices have always been working besides the first hiccup when configuring the system for the first time. Eventually, the setup died as I moved to MacBook Pro and cleared out the NVME storage, but when it did - the experience was flawless (that is, after figuring it out).

The Hackintosh will eventually die with Apple moving away from x86_64 completely.

But that day is not today. Eventually, someone might even manage to continue on the tradition with upcoming ARM64 PC platforms.

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