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Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Unrelated to the article but seeing .tk brings back many memories. As a kid without a bank account let's alone an international credit card (VISA/Mastercard), dot.tk is the only way to put a website online with your name. I created countless of websites with .tk for classmates, school and families.

What are kids using these days?

Serious question, Heroku and .tk were such amazing services if you weren't old enough to get a credit card.

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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oof. We didn't even have the Internet, nevermind Google. Kids these days will never even know what it was like pre ChatGPT. programming and even just computers alone was hard back in the day.

Hard?! You'd generally have one or two medium size books that documented the whole environment including corner cases, very few or no third party libraries, no frameworks, no autoupdates, just programmers living their best lives. If anything ChatGPT is filling the hole created by poorly documented "open source" churn.

from my perspective, I can just ask ChatGPT to give me code to whatever and it gives it to me. way easier than figuring it out for myself. hell, with openinterpreter, I can just tell my computer to fix my python shit for me. sure, there weren't me frameworks every week, so knowing C++ and MFC was a sure thing, but it's so much easier today. python points at the character of the exact line of code that's throwing the error. no more spending hours of your life to find a missing semicolon, unless you try using rust (seriously, the difference between OK() and OK(); is material? I mean I understand it now after the fact but ungh).

you can't grep paper books, at best you can look things up in the index. even without ChatGPT I can ask Google and get stack overflow and just copy and paste without having to think deeply within minutes. if I'm just trying to get something out there, why do it the hard way? there's still need for the hard way (eg, I'm currently fighting Ida pro for a thing), but there's just less of a call for that.

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

#203

Unrelated to the article but seeing .tk brings back many memories. As a kid without a bank account let's alone an international credit card (VISA/Mastercard), dot.tk is the only way to put a website online with your name. I created countless of websites with .tk for classmates, school and families.

What are kids using these days? Serious question, Heroku and .tk were such amazing services if you weren't old enough to get a credit card.

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Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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> If .tk was such a clear signal for abuse, isn't it a bad thing that signal no longer exists? No, this is (obviously) contrarianism for contrarianisms sake. It's good when entities facilitating crime stop facilitating it. No debate necessary. Additionally, it's completely unclear what you mean by your proposal.

A TLD per se is not a facilitator for crime.

Correct - and either a strawman or nonsequitor.

Someone said "Wow. It's bad they banned cars"

I said "No they didn't. It's good that seedy car dealership, the one that couldn't stop selling armored cars to Al Capone's crew for years, gave up and shut down."

You added "Cars don't kill people. People kill people."

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Are you American? Because that sounds like such an American idea of how the world works. To answer your question: most malware actors can be traced back to Russia, what exactly do you think "sending the cops" after them will accomplish and if the answer is "nothing", then does that mean you don't think they can be called criminals?

It doesn't need to be physical cops. What I mean is that if crimes are being committed, the legal system should initiate a process that either puts them in jail (which as you say may not be possible) or ends up with cloudflare banning and other internet companies blacklisting them. That way, the burden of judging criminality isn't on random companies but on the appropriate authorities.

Legal systems. And getting the Russian and American legal systems to cooperate is about as hard as getting Russia and America to cooperate.

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Spam and scams will happen no matter what. It will just be spread across the cheapest domain registrations that are still available now. The narrow and self-serving aspect that Facebook investigated, cybersquatting, should not justify killing off legitimate free domain registrations forever, at least in a better world where we more directly tackle these problems.

Nobody cut off "legitimate free domain registrations" forever. Airquotes aren't sarcastic, just, idk exactly what that combination of words means so I want to leave myself an out. You are free to hand out domains for free to strangers, if you so desire. Nobody stopped anyone from anything.

> You are free to hand out domains for free to strangers, if you so desire.

> Nobody stopped anyone from anything.

This is impossible, as we have just seen with the ICANN termination of Freenom. Turns out, the legal threats will kill it, even if other TLDs also have plenty of cybersquatting going on. There's realistically no way to repeat Freenom's success in giving out free domains without greatly heightened legal expenses now. It's gone, the fun is over.

Likewise, because of this legal pressure they will likely never allow a .free proposal -- which is to assign .free to an organization wishing to provide free domain names and foot the bill themselves, essentially becoming the LetsEncrypt of domain name registrars.

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

#207

Is it safe to assume that these were overwhelmingly on Cloudflare's free tier? I don't expect that someone who gets a domain for free is going to pay for hosting; if that's the case I don't see this as a big loss for Cloudflare, or am I missing something?

I would guess the same, that these are not Cloudflare customers but rather domains that happened to be configured on Cloudflare. CF probably just increased their profit margin a little by no longer handling all those free users.

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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I used .co.nr alongside .tk for a while, before moving to .co.cc, and then finally managing a way to buy my domain.

.co.nr was strange because it put your page inside of an iframe and required advertisement of the service.

Yeah, the cloaking was annoying - navigation across pages wouldn’t update the URL.

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Why do you need to take down Egyptian pharmacy in the first place?

Because they send controlled substances to the US and falsely label them as "supplements" I know, because I bought RX stuff from India and it did not get labelled as medication

Someone bought roids from India and didn't get busted by DEA in the process?! The horror!
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