Redefining Observability

Post by vergessenmir » Sat, Mar 16, 2024, 7:51 PM UTC

IneffablePigeon wrote: post #16

vergessenmir wrote: post #10

I think your definition of observability sits on top of the other two (Control & Cognitive definitions) and ultimately is more of a description of an approach to observability rather than a redefinition of it. Observability is hard and I agree with the approach you've laid out, especially on the involvement of leadership insight. It's crucial and it has been omitted or ignored while working on this for a decade. The…

I think I agree to some extent. I like parts of all 3 definitions presented here, and I feel the new definition loses some of the clarity by omitting the fact that we’re interested in a particular system at a time. But I really like this blog post’s main thesis that the people are part of the system and a key part of your observability stack. You can have an objectively perfectly observable system that outputs all of…

Post by steveBK123 » Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 2:50 PM UTC

nunez wrote: post #22

steveBK123 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, exactly. I've seen small companies that are smaller than Google's SRE staff alone try to implement the concept. As it turns out if your entire tech org is 50~200 people, hiring 2 people to "do SRE" because the CTO read a book.. is not gonna do the trick. CTO gonna get pretty dashboard though!

Ah, yes, the SLO Dashboard™ that makes at least eight gagillion dollars for Datadog every year that looks super pretty for execs but is amazingly useless for SREs that actually need to fix shit at 0330. i.e. basically this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQPIdZvoV4g&pp=ygUadGhlIG1hY...