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Hackintosh is almost dead

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Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by bmitc »

WWLink wrote: post #9
monetus wrote: post #6

Bad news for the indie music scene using these, where they just want to be able to run their VSTs and DAWs. Some will switch back to macs, so worth it for apple I guess.

This is the one 'creative' use case I know of where Macs actually are better - the lag and latency issues on Windows still seem pretty bad. I spent the last week shopping around for an audio interface and every single model had people complaining about driver issues and latency and "random loud static" or other crazy things when using Windows. Always Windows. Crazy stuff.

Except that Apple breaks audio applications with every new release of macOS and has for years. And, it's just a matter of time before Apple kills basically every DAW and VST when they finally kill off OpenGL on macOS.

Edit: What I have said is true here, so I'm unsure why the downvotes.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by m463 »

haunter wrote: post #12

Well I can run Mac OS in Proxmox nowadays so that's killed the "bare matel" Hackintosh for me. Yes it takes time to set it up (once!) but I much prefer KVM now than fiddling with hardware https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68R2SdbFj-8

this. A lot of the ground hackintosh broke like opencore is directly in use with VMs

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by kybernetyk »

joemi wrote: post #14
actimia wrote: post #8

I don't get why you would ever want to do a Hackintosh this way... Apple has great hardware but ABYSMAL software. I prefer Windows or any of the top 5 Linux distros on any day that ends with y. They are being carried hard by their top-tier CPUs right now. Something drastic needs to happen to the software side - as it is, it is almost an unusably bad experience to simply browse the web and move files around. Now if we…

I strongly disagree re:Apple software. We must have drastically different usage scenarios, since I find it a pleasure. What software do you have issue with, and why?

I think he's missing the forced advertisements in the macOS startmenu. Or the forced restarts/updates :)

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by zozbot234 »

WWLink wrote: post #9
monetus wrote: post #6

Bad news for the indie music scene using these, where they just want to be able to run their VSTs and DAWs. Some will switch back to macs, so worth it for apple I guess.

This is the one 'creative' use case I know of where Macs actually are better - the lag and latency issues on Windows still seem pretty bad. I spent the last week shopping around for an audio interface and every single model had people complaining about driver issues and latency and "random loud static" or other crazy things when using Windows. Always Windows. Crazy stuff.

Linux ships with a realtime kernel patchset these days, so the only issues there have to do with hardware- and proprietary VST support. With the newer Pipewire audio server you don't even need to set up JACK.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by mundays »

Now that their MacBooks come with 120hz screens with acceptable response time (unlike their early 120hz screens), the value proposition for hackintosh isn't as alluring for me. Previously, I've been worried about the T2 chip and the trend of Apple locking down MacOS, which also turned out to be less of an issue that I thought. The only area that saw significant retreat in macos is gaming.

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by k8sToGo »

haunter wrote: post #12

Well I can run Mac OS in Proxmox nowadays so that's killed the "bare matel" Hackintosh for me. Yes it takes time to set it up (once!) but I much prefer KVM now than fiddling with hardware https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68R2SdbFj-8

Why are you using Proxmox instead of just kvm? Are you running more than just Mac?

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by hparadiz »

bruce511 wrote: post #13

Back in my youth, when I was time rich and cash poor, this kind of tinkering was fun and a good way to improve the machine I was using. Now that I have more disposable cash, but waaay less time, I couldn't imagine "wasting my time" doing this sort of thing. These days I want to -use- the computer, not spend time trying to convince it to work. Incidentally it's the exact same journey with my cars. 35 years ago I was f…

It's really not much of a time commitment. You can just lookup hardware with full compatibility and build a desktop that "just works".

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by NoxiousPluK »

WWLink wrote: post #9
monetus wrote: post #6

Bad news for the indie music scene using these, where they just want to be able to run their VSTs and DAWs. Some will switch back to macs, so worth it for apple I guess.

This is the one 'creative' use case I know of where Macs actually are better - the lag and latency issues on Windows still seem pretty bad. I spent the last week shopping around for an audio interface and every single model had people complaining about driver issues and latency and "random loud static" or other crazy things when using Windows. Always Windows. Crazy stuff.

As someone who does quite some audio stuff on Windows, using Focusrite Scarlett interfaces - I never encountered issues like that.

On Linux however..

Re: Hackintosh is almost dead

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Post by KingOfLechia »

Other than trying out the MacOS for the first time to learn how bad it is, why would anyone make a hackintosh? Windows and Linux are infinitely better operating systems, more open, with better backwards compatibility, more hardware support, independence from vendor servers and more available software.

A reminder that with MacOS you need internet connection in order to re-install the OS as it requires activation just like iPads and iPhones. Imagine one day Apple stops supporting your Macbook model, shuts down its activation server and your computer turns into brick after something goes wrong and it requires a factory reset.

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