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Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by Kye »

broast wrote: post #43
101008 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. .tk was the only one back then that allowed you to have your own domain name without subdomains. My memory is that: 1. freeserver.com/~userna 2. username.freeserver.com 3. username.fs.com 4. username.tk Then we grew up a bit and started paying domains :')

I remember one around the year 2000 that gave you yourname.com for free but it would host your site in a frameset with a bottom frame serving banner ads. IIRC it was called NameZero, but I don't think it lasted long.

That was definitely NameZero. Their problem was they had no way to control what you ran inside your frame, so everyone ran a well-distributed code snippet that removed the ad frame.

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by tamimio »

thangngoc89 wrote: post #2

Unrelated to the article but seeing .tk brings back many memories. As a kid without a bank account let's alone an international credit card (VISA/Mastercard), dot.tk is the only way to put a website online with your name. I created countless of websites with .tk for classmates, school and families.

I remember flexing on my friends that the google site I had got a proper name with .tk!

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by where-group-by »

kdmccormick wrote: post #25
bombcar wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that "free for kids" is also "free for scammers" and it's hard to square that circle.

Would be really cool if public schools provided a free domain and basic hosting for any interested middle/high school student.

I don't think that would be a good idea. It would introduce an admin burden on the schools related to moderating/monitoring the sites. And they would more than likely overstep in one way or another, when enforcing their rules.

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by tamimio »

captn3m0 wrote: post #3
thangngoc89 wrote: post #2

Unrelated to the article but seeing .tk brings back many memories. As a kid without a bank account let's alone an international credit card (VISA/Mastercard), dot.tk is the only way to put a website online with your name. I created countless of websites with .tk for classmates, school and families.

I used .co.nr alongside .tk for a while, before moving to .co.cc, and then finally managing a way to buy my domain.

Ah, co.cc, the tld that was full of php reverse shells!

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by lolinder »

AlienRobot wrote: post #50
overstay8930 wrote: post #18

The people complaining that Cloudflare hosts these criminals would be the first ones complaining that Cloudflare has too much power when taking down websites it doesn’t like. You can’t win with these people, I personally think this is the best outcome and shows our systems work (albeit slowly). Sure it took a while, but now there doesn’t have to be a precedent of Cloudflare acting as the internet police more than it…

This seems like such a weird problem to me. If they're criminals, just send the cops? If you can't send the cops, then they aren't criminals? How do you end up in this limbo where you need critical infrastructure to play judge?

The internet is a global system that spans ~all jurisdictions, and most internet criminals live in jurisdictions that don't prosecute internet crimes as long as the bad actors leave citizens of their own country alone.

So they're criminals as far as the US and allies are concerned, but de facto not criminals where they live. If they're going to be locked out of the system, it has to be by the infrastructure, because their government has no interest in stopping them.

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by kdmccormick »

where-group-by wrote: post #53
kdmccormick wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would be really cool if public schools provided a free domain and basic hosting for any interested middle/high school student.

I don't think that would be a good idea. It would introduce an admin burden on the schools related to moderating/monitoring the sites. And they would more than likely overstep in one way or another, when enforcing their rules.

I was thinking state-administered. Public school enrollment would just be the precondition to access the program.

But sure, yeah, there'd be some admin time spent managing it. As with anything, there are plenty of reasons not to do it. It struck me as a low cost-to-impact ratio thing that could get kids into tech, but reasonable minds could disagree.

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by rvnx »

overstay8930 wrote: post #23
_mlbt wrote: post #10

Another prominent .tk domain is for the Tcl programming language (tcl.tk) and I just checked, that is one of the paid .tk domains that are still up.

Why do orgs feel the need to use these whacky TLDs I’m still of the fence with rust using .rs in important places which is fundamentally in control of the Serbian government. You’re going to have to trust the Serbian government with signing .rs DNSSSEC at minimum and I don’t.

Because all .com are already taken and available only after you pay ransom money.

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by lxgr »

overstay8930 wrote: post #18

The people complaining that Cloudflare hosts these criminals would be the first ones complaining that Cloudflare has too much power when taking down websites it doesn’t like. You can’t win with these people, I personally think this is the best outcome and shows our systems work (albeit slowly). Sure it took a while, but now there doesn’t have to be a precedent of Cloudflare acting as the internet police more than it…

What criminals are you referring to? The operators of .tk, or their users?

Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by lapsed_pacifist »

chx wrote: post #42
KomoD wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, because of the pressure after it all blew up. They even said in their own blog post that it was an "extraordinary" decision and did not believe terminating them was appropriate. Kiwi Farms used their services for at least 6 years before anything happened.

And all that pressure was for naught because it's still available right on the clearweb :'(

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Re: Cloudflare loses 22% of its domains in Freenom .tk shutdown

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Post by bastawhiz »

> The affected domains represent a big loss for Cloudflare, with .tk, .cf and .gq previously accounting for 23.1% of all domains hosted on its platform – and nearly all of these have now gone.

I'm not sure in what way this is a "loss". I doubt cloudflare is losing money (or revenue) here. Especially if many of these domains are spammy, it seems like this is probably not much of anything for them.

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