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'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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I thought firing a gun would leave gunpowder residue on your hands

I'm pretty sure there are other ways of putting gun powder resedue on someone.

Yes, the point is that unless they actually take the time to do something like that, you might see that the victim has no residue on their hand and could not have shot themselves.

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Never heard of that before. What stands out to me is, that the executive person ordering it, Steve Wymer, was not charged at all, despite making very plain statements: "Wymer texted Baugh that Ina Steiner was a "biased troll who needs to be BURNED DOWN"; that he wanted "to see ashes"; and that Baugh should do "whatever it takes."" I would imagine the same will happen here(if it was murder). Some pawns get executed, w…

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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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You are talking about a company that participated in CIA kidnappings. Surely they can find a way. https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-sues-boeing-subsidi...

The CIA and NED are way to interested in the wellbeing of Americans to do something so heinous. /s

While the CIA have done a variety of coup like overseas operations I think they'd be reluctant to kill people to meddle with a domestic factory safety hearing.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Firing a gun leaves residue on your hands etc. They can tell whether you fired it

Perhaps that is why so many suicides, such as that of Gary Webb, involve two bullets from the same gun

Most shots don't kill instantly, unless you go straight through the brain.

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But people _do_ die when exposing corruption of the rich. Such as Daphne Caruana Galizia and Ján Kuciak for the Panama papers. Would you call their deaths "hollywood films"? And it'd be natural to think killers would try to hide their traces, such that most such deaths would look like an accident or suicide.

I am more skeptical of the perfect staging to make it look like a suicide theory. Both of those killings were in pseudo-mafioso states. Both were also immediately recognized as murder. State-sanctioned murder of your own citizens on your own soil is a lot less commmon in a country like the US, although there are well as Mafia and organized crime murders. But I think successful staging as a suicide is uncommon outside…

> Both of those killings were in pseudo-mafioso states

ugh? there is more law & order in Malta than in the US.

been there for nearly a decade and according to Wikipedia [1] the homicide rate in the US is 6.4 while it is 0.4 in Malta.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intention...

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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I feel like when there is financial malfeasance, we find enough cases of it in the wild to document that it has really happened. Whether it's Enron, or stories of lobbyists and politicians acting in self interest in ways that break the law, or even just municipal officials embezzling, we have known cases of that. So if you ever have the feeling that big financial transactions might be ethically questionable, you can…

if Boeing wasn't a major defense contractor -- then yeah. you could easily say suicide. but since they're in bed with 3 letter agencies. it becomes a whole different game altogether. since there's a 3 letter agency that has nailed the assassination game to a T. whether on home soil or abroad.

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Perhaps the death of Jeffrey Epstein shows that this sort of thing does happen in the West. I know the case is not of the same kind, but the perpetrator was very likely a corporate type trying to protect their reputation, which is at least close.

All joking aside, was there anything in the Epstein case to indicate foul play or is it just a meme? I can't find anything reputable.

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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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I wouldn't be so sure. I dropped that point of view, after I read about the Lucona incident in europe and all the dirt behind it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucona Which lead me to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Gladio "According to several Western European researchers, the operation involved the use of assassination, psychological warfare, and false flag operations to delegitimize left-wing parties in W…

Regarding Gladio, what is wild conspiracy theories anywhere else, in Italy is just a slow Tuesday. Just to get started on the rabbit hole, and somewhat relevant for this thread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Calvi

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if Boeing wasn't a major defense contractor -- then yeah. you could easily say suicide. but since they're in bed with 3 letter agencies. it becomes a whole different game altogether. since there's a 3 letter agency that has nailed the assassination game to a T. whether on home soil or abroad.

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The "highly-skilled" assassin is kind of a myth. Most killers-for-hire are idiots.

This is Michael Clayton stuff, but the assassination in the movie is much more "elegant".

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The "highly-skilled" assassin is kind of a myth. Most killers-for-hire are idiots. This is Michael Clayton stuff, but the assassination in the movie is much more "elegant".

Most killers-for-hire are undercover cops. But Boeing wouldn't be hiring a guy off of rent-a-hitman.com, they have access to groups like Blackwater who literally murder people for the government as a business. They could just ask for whoever did Epstein or Seth Rich (allegedly.)
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