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Re: Launch HN: Meticulate (YC W24) – LLM pipelines for business research

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Post by killerstorm »

swatcoder wrote: post #8

> delivering results 50x faster at 50x less cost What about quality of results? Are you measuring that too? Did you do so for the traditional reference practice? Using what sort of methodology? How did it your technique compare in quality? What kind of errors was it most likely to make? What techniques have you devised for spotting those errors? Are they the same kind of errors that users would experience when outsou…

As somebody who have seen a lot of market research coming from "real humans"(TM) I'm pretty sure it's actually hard to make it worse. Maybe there are boutiques which make quality research, but average is abysmal.

I've been in a meeting with a senior executive, PhD, who argued that Total Addressable Market for a supply chain tracking software (basically just a database) is same as the market for the goods it tracks.

It is as if a startup which prints restaurant menus would claim the value of all food sold in restaurants as their TAM.

And this person was otherwise reasonable...

So, yeah, never underestimate the power of Natural Stupidity.

Perhaps

Re: Launch HN: Meticulate (YC W24) – LLM pipelines for business research

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Post by mikejulietbravo »

swatcoder wrote: post #8

> delivering results 50x faster at 50x less cost What about quality of results? Are you measuring that too? Did you do so for the traditional reference practice? Using what sort of methodology? How did it your technique compare in quality? What kind of errors was it most likely to make? What techniques have you devised for spotting those errors? Are they the same kind of errors that users would experience when outsou…

This was a huge problem when I was working on a similar product some years ago. The issue is that false positives or worse, false negatives, can be pretty catastrophic when you're thinking about valuing companies in particular. What's hard for LLMs (currently) is to decide what is most important or to infer the things that aren't explicitly stated.

Re: Launch HN: Meticulate (YC W24) – LLM pipelines for business research

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Post by Shindi »

barfbagginus wrote: post #28

I once had a business owner interview me and conclude that he wanted to hire me because he felt that I was a good thinker, someone who was, "real meticulate". I told the boss that actually that is spelled meticulous. They said that he was pretty sure that it was spelled meticulate. I got the job offer, but I refuse the job. The thought of working as and inferior for somebody who would sucker down on the spelling "met…

I'm pretty sure it's actually hair brained

Re: Launch HN: Meticulate (YC W24) – LLM pipelines for business research

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Post by ProjectArcturis »

Shindi wrote: post #33
barfbagginus wrote: post #28

I once had a business owner interview me and conclude that he wanted to hire me because he felt that I was a good thinker, someone who was, "real meticulate". I told the boss that actually that is spelled meticulous. They said that he was pretty sure that it was spelled meticulate. I got the job offer, but I refuse the job. The thought of working as and inferior for somebody who would sucker down on the spelling "met…

I'm pretty sure it's actually hair brained

No, it's hare as in rabbit.

Re: Launch HN: Meticulate (YC W24) – LLM pipelines for business research

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Post by spencerchubb »

barfbagginus wrote: post #28

I once had a business owner interview me and conclude that he wanted to hire me because he felt that I was a good thinker, someone who was, "real meticulate". I told the boss that actually that is spelled meticulous. They said that he was pretty sure that it was spelled meticulate. I got the job offer, but I refuse the job. The thought of working as and inferior for somebody who would sucker down on the spelling "met…

Your attention to spelling further shows your meticulousness

Re: Launch HN: Meticulate (YC W24) – LLM pipelines for business research

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Post by novariation »

I tried it quickly on my company (some IT consulting multinational) to find competitors, and I was wondering if there was an easy way to do the following:

- for each company, find their main product lines and their respective market share (i.e. my firm does multiple things such as architecture, data governance, data engineering, data analysis, etc) but we're not necessarily the best on every type of service. I'm assuming that's a common pattern (e.g. some automotive companies are great at trucks but not the best at smaller cars, etc). - get basic financial stats (revenue, market share) - (bonus) get time-dependent stats (what was their revenue like 3 years ago ? What's the YoY growth ?)

Re: Launch HN: Meticulate (YC W24) – LLM pipelines for business research

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Post by wilburli »

rgbrgb wrote: post #19
wilburli wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks! That's fascinating, do you remember what kind of tasks they served? Using GPT-4 and GPT-3.5 currently, and costs can be $1.50+ per request right now (have been benefiting from YC cloud credits!). Definitely steep at the moment but we expect costs to come down at least 10x over time. Not super clear on pricing yet (only a few weeks post-launch)

I think it was similar... an agent finds a bunch of info on a private/public company to evaluate investment (automating some associate analyst work). TBH I'm not sure where they ended up but I know they had an interesting distribution channel lined up. Happy to connect if you want. > $1.50 Thanks for sharing! I think they were ~10x that but hadn't done a ton of optimization yet. To me, having a swag at cost makes the…

would love the connect to learn more about what they tried, I'm at wilbur at meticulate.ai

Definitely... we're lucky to be in an industry where there's a lot of money at stake

Re: Launch HN: Meticulate (YC W24) – LLM pipelines for business research

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Post by barfbagginus »

VoodooJuJu wrote: post #29
barfbagginus wrote: post #28

I once had a business owner interview me and conclude that he wanted to hire me because he felt that I was a good thinker, someone who was, "real meticulate". I told the boss that actually that is spelled meticulous. They said that he was pretty sure that it was spelled meticulate. I got the job offer, but I refuse the job. The thought of working as and inferior for somebody who would sucker down on the spelling "met…

It's ironic because you were the one harebraining over trivial bullshit. We have millions of customers to serve and billions of dollars at stake, but you're going to nitpick over this guy's colloquial word misuse? Come on.

If you have millions of customers and billions of dollars at stake, you better ensure that your CEO knows how to spell meticulous.

This person had so many red flags you could have called him Stalin. A bumpkin with missing teeth and a meth habit. I was applying as a mechanic in 2008. I didn't take the job because I didn't want to get f**ed around. So how about you give me a break? :wink:

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