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'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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They don’t even know the details of the weapon, but in the minute of it being published, they claimed to know it was “self-inflicted”.

Maybe the authorities do know and it's simply not published/released? After all, assuming he shot himself and the gun is right there, it seems fairly reasonable to tentatively presume it's self inflicted.

How did he get the gun? Didn't he have to travel for the proceedings?

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post #93

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I think you heavily under estimate what normal people motivated by money are capable of doing. In my friends highschool, some businesses guy was paying highschool kids (16 - 17 ish) to strangle car owners and steal their cars. They were later caught. Also, watch or read Killers of The Flowers Moon. The problem with planned murder is that it is all hidden, and the details are fuzzy. So there is alot of reasonable doub…

> normal people motivated by money… strangle car owners and steal their cars… Those are not in any way normal people. If someone makes it to 16-17 y/o without acquiring that fundamental moral lesson, I would not characterize them as normal, whatever the cause of that failure.

All There is to Know About Adolph Eichmann by Leonard Cohen

EYES:……………………………………Medium

HAIR:……………………………………Medium

WEIGHT:………………………………Medium

HEIGHT:………………………………Medium

DISTINGUISHING FEATURES…None

NUMBER OF FINGERS:………..Ten

NUMBER OF TOES………………Ten

INTELLIGENCE…………………….Medium

What did you expect?

Talons?

Oversize incisors?

Green saliva?

Madness?

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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post #81

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Contrary to popular belief, there is not a readily and highly available supply of assassins and hitmen in the world. The problem with this whole "he totally didn't kill himself" thing is...okay, so how did they kill him? Because you can't just put a gun in the hand of an unwilling person and force them to shoot themselves without leaving evidence.

One of the richest men in Norway cultivated a relationship with a torpedo and used his services on several occasions. It happens.

As a fellow Norwegian now living in the UK: That term is so archaic and unusual in English that odds are quite a few people won't know it at all (In 24 years in the UK I don't think I've ever heard it used)

For the non-Norwegians: "Torpedo" in Norwegian has adopted the 1920s US slang for a hit man / hired gun, and in Norwegian it's in common, contemporary use, though more often for threats and violence than outright murder.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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No. If you’re concerned that you might get murdered, and want to make it clear that you have no intention of killing yourself, telling your one friend about it in a conversation in the midst of moving a sofa with no records to prove it whatsoever is the worst possible way of doing it. Tweet it, send it in a message, leave a note in your home. But, “hey push that side, and let’s lift this in 3..2…. oh by the way I hav…

So you’ve never made a comment about something in passing that turned out to be true? Completely reasonable for this to be said in conversation with a friend but not taken seriously enough to write it down.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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I worked for an eBay Inc. company as an executive, never thought that could happen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal

I could certainly believe Boeing would do something like that before I'd ever imagine eBay would, yet eBay did what they did. The stakes are MUCH higher for Boeing, and we already know quite well that Boeing decided to put many human lives at risk to save money, and that's already resulted in many deaths. And they have a long history of making products designed specifically for killing humans. https://www.boeing.com/…

Boeing also has very privileged relations with various three letter agencies.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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The OP link https://abcnews4.com/news/local/if-anything-happens-its-not-... has two different cookie consent banners on top of each other and on iPhone using Safari I can’t scroll down to click any buttons to dismiss the banners which cover the screen.

Screenshot of unreadable page:

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I’m in Europe, maybe that’s why they are serving me the page with these overlays.

Thankfully however, archive.today is able to identify those kinds of overlays in many cases and remove them, including for this page.

Readable archive link:

https://archive.is/lgFFJ

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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post #98

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You put the gun in their hands after you shoot them, as in every movie ever.

Firing a gun leaves residue on your hands etc. They can tell whether you fired it

I'm not a trained killer, but I have watched some movies. To account for residue, just place the firearm in the corpse's hand, point in a random upward trajectory and pull back on the dead person's trigger finger. Optionally, replace the spent bullet in the gun's magazine.

I feel you would have come up with this same solution had you needed to.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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post #101

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John McAfee? EDIT: Not saying that I believe it or care, but even wiki mentions it. Thought it would fit the other mentions... > McAfee's death ignited speculation and conspiracy theories about the possibility that he was murdered. Such speculation was particularly fueled by a 2019 post McAfee made on Twitter that read, in part, “If I suicide myself, I didn't. I was whackd [sic].”[133] > Several times, McAfee claimed…

In this case there's at least the motive for Boeing to kill him. But in McAfee's case what's the motive for killing him? It seems like the only one going after him was the US (for tax evasion charges). He was already going to be extradited. Why kill him at that point?

The only thing I can come up with is this tweet: https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/113777734891968102...

It mentions the CIA, that must've been it!!!! /s

> I've collected files on corruption in governments. For the first time, I'm naming names and specifics. I'll begin with a corrupt CIA agent and two Bahamian officials. Coming today. If I'm arrested or disappear, 31+ terrabytes of incriminating data will be released to the press.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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These kinds of things happen and the waters immediately get murky. Even those closest to the person in question are never really 100% sure. Reminds me of the death of journalist Michael Hastings in 2013. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hastings_(journalist)#... Richard Clarke's assessment seemed to carry the weight of truth. But only to a point. Just enough to engage the suspicions of family and friends, but no…

In my view, almost all of these are accidents or suicides and people watch way too many hollywood films. The Hastings thing is classic mania for those of us who know people who have experienced that.

yeah the other issue with these things are that they are unlimited statements and indefinite in length

"look this person wrote on twitter 2 years ago that it won't be suicide"

hm.

a solution I imagined for this was some sort of point cloud emitting off of everyone's body, so we would have a point cloud based rendering of what happened near someone, could reveal a lot about human interactions

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firing a gun leaves residue on your hands etc. They can tell whether you fired it

I'm not a trained killer, but I have watched some movies. To account for residue, just place the firearm in the corpse's hand, point in a random upward trajectory and pull back on the dead person's trigger finger. Optionally, replace the spent bullet in the gun's magazine. I feel you would have come up with this same solution had you needed to.

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