6000 apartments on 10 acres translates to a population density of 150k/km assuming there's just one person living in each.
With three people per apartment you could pack the city of Lyon into little more than a square kilometre.
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#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
No there isn't, any more than there's irony in white people not building thatch-roofed huts. Every culture evolves over time.
Not people's perceptions of said cultures. Africa is over 62% Christian as it stands today, and yet the Wakandans of hollywood practice ancestor worship (representing ~2% of Africa). There's irony wherever you look. We can't seem to move past the past when it comes to minorities.
I mean, (the fictional nation of) Wakanda is depicted as a very isolationist country, and it's reasonable to expect that Christianity wouldn't have taken root if foreign missionaries were expelled throughout its history. Tokugawa-era Japan may be the closest comparison, where its isolationist policies resulted in fairly high retention of indigenous religions even through to modern times. Today less than 2% of Japan's population is Christian, whereas nearly 30% of South Koreans are Christian.
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#243Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it is discontinuous with the broader urban fabric this is definitely a risk. Look up Ørestad in Copenhagen - a massive master planned area that never gained any of the hoped for vitality you would see elsewhere in the city. A decent video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OMxzXsufq8
I think the tough part is it's hard to master plan these thing sometimes. Is it better to limit restrictions and let people put coffee shops and bars where they want?
I absolutely think your'e right - given permissive small business landscape
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#244Off topic remark on the story drafting...
Sen̓áḵw
How is anyone supposed to pronounce this if they're not from Vancouver and haven't been exposed to indigenous culture there? You'd think they'd include an English approximation or a link to an audio recording. I don't think the average person has the time or energy to resolve 3 stacked diacriticals and a consonant juxtaposition.
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#245I say this all as a YIMBY who is very happy to see 20k new units added to vancouver: something feels off about the plans for the Jericho lands but I can't describe it. I feel like when you have these mega developments where 10 condos go up all at once in the space of a few blocks, they end up as "bedroom neighborhoods", where people sleep but don't do anything else. There are a lot of these happening in Canada right…
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#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it is discontinuous with the broader urban fabric this is definitely a risk. Look up Ørestad in Copenhagen - a massive master planned area that never gained any of the hoped for vitality you would see elsewhere in the city. A decent video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OMxzXsufq8
It seems like it had othe problems apart from being discontinuous from the city. There are lots of areas like this in the US which are contiguous with the city, that still end up as dead zones. Did anyone really believe this was a good idea? I feel like the developers' need to turn a profit and the government's need to impose itself don't leave any good ideas on the table. Instead they focus on packaging up the same…
I think the lack of organic place making is hard, but certainly not impossible. The example I listed suffered from insufficient place making (which one day may yet appear).
The pedestrian and shopping areas are linearized instead of polycentric as you would see in an urban core limiting mobility and discovery of the local businesses that make an urban landscape thrive. Additionally a limited variety in offerings of real estate limit the use patterns of a place. For example there stretches along the main way that form a barren pedestrian zone (among those are freeway underpasses, giant shopping centers and large office blocks).
Why its hard to replicate the organic formation of these places is that markets and public will, over time, evolve the space into the best value use. Of course, put enough people living in an area and urban life will emerge as people fill out coffee shops, theaters, etc. -given policy accommodative to mixed use development.
Here are two highly cherrypicked illustrations of my point.
Inner Copenhagen: https://www.google.com/maps/@55.6800033,12.5764683,3a,75y,24...
Orestad: https://www.google.com/maps/@55.6285983,12.5788039,3a,90y,19...
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#247It's comforting to see first nations of canada recovering a central role in modern canadian society. However, having lived here for a year a year now, I have observed a concerning aspect of this re-integration, which is mentioned in the article: First nations aren't just propped back up and re-integrated in society, it goes further in that they are given special rights that go beyond what any other class of canadian…
>"On moral grounds, I find it questionable to give some citizens special birth rights greater than others."
They did not ask to be a citizens of Canada. They were invaded, conquered, killed and actively suppressed. Mistreatment still continues. How's that for moral grounds?
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#248It's comforting to see first nations of canada recovering a central role in modern canadian society. However, having lived here for a year a year now, I have observed a concerning aspect of this re-integration, which is mentioned in the article: First nations aren't just propped back up and re-integrated in society, it goes further in that they are given special rights that go beyond what any other class of canadian…
2024 Canada is an absurd time and place to be alive.
Canada 2024: - Universities have "Black only" swim hours and segregated "Person of Colour" buildings - "no whites allowed". - Indigenous people get special treatment by courts (the courts were literally instructed not to hold them to the same standards as others) - The courts now use the term "person with a vagina" to refer to women - Land acknowledgements... Everywhere. What a waste of time and resources that accomplishes nothing - (Of course, if we keep saying we stole their land -- they are going to want it back - and this is what we see in the courts) - And this is just scratching the surface of whats happening
My wife works for a government organization, and even their internal emails have land acknowledgements in them. She has to take 1-2 days of DEI training per month.
... I could go on for hours. After living in various countries over the last ~15 years, moving back to Canada has turned out to be one of the worst choices I've ever made. And I'm at least lucky enough to be able to afford a house here.
This country is imploding.
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#249The native nation, Squamish Nation, used to own the entire parcel of land immediately north of the 10 acres land mentioned in this article as a reservation granted by the former-colonial government (a native village stood in Vancouver downtown but the colonial gov forced them to move across the inlet). But thru multiple forced relocations and unceded land take over, the reservation was gradually taken over. >Slowly,…
I don't know if it's fair to call a bridge a stroad
"stroad" is just a shibboleth for people with "urbanist" in their Mastodon profiles, sometimes it slips out where it doesn't really make sense.
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#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
> On moral grounds, I find it questionable to give some citizens special birth rights greater than others. Kind of the point here is that it was happening the other way for a couple hundred years, so just abrogating current inequality still leaves one party as a disadvantage. The hard part is deciding when these catch-up priveleges have run their course. Since first nations metrics along the lines of economic status…
When the catch up is in the form of hiring quotas for a mining project on native lands, that’s just a consensual business deal and it’s positive. But sometimes the situation is taken advantage of and the appeasement goes too far. Like instead of cutting firewood for the wood stove, you just throw all your furniture and cabinetry and doors in there. Then you just ask for new ones from a big company who just wants to q…
"Instead of cutting firewood for the wood stove, you just throw all your furniture and cabinetry and doors in there. Then you just ask for new ones..."
Having spent quite a bit of time on various reservations in Western Canada, I've literally seen this happen with my own eyes.