Sell the disease, and then sell the cure. Capitalism at its finest!
rent the cure. FTFY.
CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms
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Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms
#42So on a serious note, we were discussing this in another thread about: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39698546 and using that to automate the unsub from trackers: --> This really needs to be used to make a tool to automate all the "delete my data" requests and have users map out deleting their data/PII etc from data brokers to a git something and people can submit the recipes to delete your personal data. I jus…
Your data is sitting in an unencrypted excel spreadsheet somewhere as it moves between entities. Good luck.
Your best bet is what the government minister mentioned elsewhere in this thread did. Generate noise. So much noise that none of your "PII" is even remotely accurate.
You can't hide, but you can paint an incredibly inaccurate picture.
Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms
#43You see this a lot these days (though I suppose it's just more visible now). Another example is people selling political t-shirts (many offensive or obnoxious) to both sides of a partisan divide.
In the US, I feel like I only see one side buying merchandise. Especially offensive and obnoxious merchandise.
I'm pretty certain that the other side of your political leaning would say the same thing about your party.
Ask anyone about there political merchandise and they will never see it as just "merch" but as a fundamental truth that is pivotal to there way of life they they feel is being threatened. It's much like calling someone's religious garments or iconography just merchandise and is a very closed minded point of view.
Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms
#44This kind of thing feels better left to trusted 1st parties, oneself. Link to a list of data broker opt out methods: https://github.com/yaelwrites/Big-Ass-Data-Broker-Opt-Out-Li...
Great list!
My first thought was: "why stick all this info in a readme and not some nice json list I could scrape".
I then thought: "maybe I can just have my AI friend scan the readme and do all the opt-out work for me"
Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms
#45Prostitution is not the oldest profession. Racketeering probably is. Probably started with the most basic form: giving your food to Ugg to pay him to stop his brother Grug from punching you.
Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms
#46A not-so-secret dirty little secret is that many of the reputation management agencies also own many of the public records websites that publish mug shots, court records, and so on. When you hire them to remove that information from the internet it puts you into a cycle of being removed from one or two of their website and added to something else. You end up in a never-ending game of whack-a-mole. Complete with month…
It’s racketeering
this seems to fit the definition.
In many cases, the potential problem may be caused by the same party that offers to solve it, but that fact may be concealed, with the intent to engender continual patronage.
Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms
#47I can’t give specifics, I know someone who had to deal with “delete me” requests from these “privacy” companies. The privacy company would literally take your personal info (name, email), and _email it to every company they could think of_ asking the company to delete your account _even if you didn’t have one_.
I had a suspicion these services actually do more harm than good, even if they're well intentioned and not actively running a data collection scheme. But this is really a chicken-egg situation. How do you tell companies to delete your information without telling them what identifies your information? It's in these companies' interest to make this as difficult as possible, so a solution based on data hashes is highly…
> actually do more harm than good
I've wondered about this too.
I have a common enough name that about 2/3 of the info data brokers have on me is garbage.
If every data broker could be relied on to faithfully delete my info I would sign up for Optery or Incogni today. I don't, because if even one of those 2/3 is a bad actor I'm just expending effort to clean up their data.
Specifically, the data I don't want them to have.
Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms
#48Apparently it is also the same service that Mozilla Monitor uses, as per ToS. Big yikes. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/terms/subscription...
In my opinion, this is a failure of due diligence on behalf of the Mozilla Corporation. I'm sure their legal team is jumping into incident response mode right now.
I think this is one of the problems of organisations not doing anything themselves, and offloading responsibility and liability to both external partners.
If you trusted Mozilla Monitor with your personal data, their legal contact information is listed on their terms page: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/legal/terms/subscription...
The same terms page you agreed to which both limited their liability to $500, and granted them indemnification from liability.
Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms
#49Prostitution is not the oldest profession. Racketeering probably is. Probably started with the most basic form: giving your food to Ugg to pay him to stop his brother Grug from punching you.
Professional bullying
Re: CEO of data privacy company Onerep.com founded dozens of people-search firms
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the US, I feel like I only see one side buying merchandise. Especially offensive and obnoxious merchandise.
A few seconds worth of work reveals how false this is. Perhaps it's just that you find one type of merchandise offensive but find the other type pleasant. Perhaps this open bias is coloring your perceptions?
I’m mid 30s, and I don’t recall anytime other than the last 7 years in which I saw people wearing stuff that came anywhere close to “Fuck ”. Or chanting it at random non political sporting events with families with children in attendance.
And I don’t see the other party doing anything equivalent, from giant flags on pickup trucks, to roadside merchandise stalls, to pick up truck convoys that harass and bully other candidates on the road…