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Re: SXSW Tried to Silence Critics with Bogus Trademark and Copyright Claims

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Reminder to those who might think to justify Israel's enthic cleansing campaign by citing the actions of Hamas: The last election in Gaza was in 2006, 18 years ago. They did not receive a majority of votes then, and the majority of Palestinians in Gaza today were too young or not even born to have voted in 2006. Collective punishment of the Gazan people for the actions of Hamas is simply reprehensible.

> Reminder to those who might think to justify Israel's enthic cleansing campaign by citing the actions of Hamas.

The proportion of civilians -and more specifically children- killed should be enough to discredit any justification of the current cleansing in progress. All the rest is just brain rot, leaning towards open support of genocide.

Unfortunately, it appears as if we have learnt nothing in the last 80+ years, and "it's complicated" is a great excuse to tolerate such actions, as it has been in the past.

Re: SXSW Tried to Silence Critics with Bogus Trademark and Copyright Claims

#22
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Israel does a lot worthy of condemnation, much of which is not justified by Hamas's actions. However it is important to recognise the support Hamas recieves from the civilian Palestinian population. Hamas isn't supported by the majority of Gazan citizens, however their actions on Oct 7 are. > Seventy-two percent of respondents said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel…

>However it is important to recognise the support Hamas recieves from the civilian Palestinian population. Hamas isn't supported by the majority of Gazan citizens, however their actions on Oct 7 are. "2023 marks deadliest year on record for children in the occupied West Bank" - Save the Children, published: 18 SEPTEMBER 2023. >Of course some of this can likely be explained by fear of reprisal when speaking against Ha…

Hatred for your oppresors is rational.

The desire to continue attacks that intentionally maximise civilian casualties as part of a war you are doomed to lose is not.

If Palestine could end its attacks on Israel, almost all international support for Israel would dry up within 6 months.

The symmetric attacks that justify the next are doomed to continue forever until both sides can hold back.

Hamas will never be that partner in peace for Israel.

Egypt and Jordan both managed to fight with Israel and come to a lasting peace, and I feel like insisting that Palestinians are incapable of the same robs them of any agency.

I of course give Israel the same accountability. The settlements are unjustifiable. The response to Oct 7 needs a huge amount of investigation in order ensure all has been done to minimise civilian casualties.

The same way Palestine needs to stop firing rockets for a lasting peace to be possible, Israel will likely need to take a couple terrorist attacks on the chin once a feasible partner for peace in Palestine has been found.

Re: SXSW Tried to Silence Critics with Bogus Trademark and Copyright Claims

#23

Reminder to those who might think to justify Israel's enthic cleansing campaign by citing the actions of Hamas: The last election in Gaza was in 2006, 18 years ago. They did not receive a majority of votes then, and the majority of Palestinians in Gaza today were too young or not even born to have voted in 2006. Collective punishment of the Gazan people for the actions of Hamas is simply reprehensible.

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Zionists love to smear the resistance as "rapists" while the IDF itself has a track record of raping Palestinian hostages.[0] Since Israel's brutal settler colonialism is indefensible their primary strategy is to concentrate on making up absurd atrocity propaganda like "40 beheaded babies" and "mass rape" all of which are baseless lies which have been debunked.[1][2] Israel forbids doctors from speaking to UN group[3], why would they behave in such manner when they claim to be speaking the truth?

[0] UN experts condemn credible reports of executions, sexual assault by Israeli soldiers - https://thehill.com/policy/international/4477340-un-experts-...

[1] UN Report CAN'T Prove 10/7 Mass Sex Assault Claims - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in8u_VXi3gA

[2] Local Israelis DEBUNK NYT Sexual Assault Allegation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKgHaK-CoYs

[3] Israel forbids doctors from speaking to UN group - https://www.timesofisrael.com/government-forbids-doctors-fro...

Re: SXSW Tried to Silence Critics with Bogus Trademark and Copyright Claims

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>However it is important to recognise the support Hamas recieves from the civilian Palestinian population. Hamas isn't supported by the majority of Gazan citizens, however their actions on Oct 7 are. "2023 marks deadliest year on record for children in the occupied West Bank" - Save the Children, published: 18 SEPTEMBER 2023. >Of course some of this can likely be explained by fear of reprisal when speaking against Ha…

Hatred for your oppresors is rational. The desire to continue attacks that intentionally maximise civilian casualties as part of a war you are doomed to lose is not. If Palestine could end its attacks on Israel, almost all international support for Israel would dry up within 6 months. The symmetric attacks that justify the next are doomed to continue forever until both sides can hold back. Hamas will never be that pa…

>If Palestine could end its attacks on Israel, almost all international support for Israel would dry up within 6 months.

That's a blatant lie and you know it. Since Israel can murder 14K+ children and still receive support as we are witnessing, your proposed strategy most certainly will not yield the claimed results.

>Hamas will never be that partner in peace for Israel.

So why did Israel finance and support Hamas? That's because Israel had never any real interest in peace, it's a settler colonial project which wants all of the land with ideally no Palestinians in it, for which there is more than enough evidence.

>Egypt and Jordan both managed to fight with Israel and come to a lasting peace, and I feel like insisting that Palestinians are incapable of the same robs them of any agency.

The framing of this is just outright laughable. Israel holds all of the power and thus bears the prime responsibility.

>I of course give Israel the same accountability. The settlements are unjustifiable. The response to Oct 7 needs a huge amount of investigation in order ensure all has been done to minimise civilian casualties.

I'm not even going to entertain this utter dishonesty for a second. They've murdered 14K+ children, you can keep roleplaying as hard as you want but anyone who has seen a fraction of the evidence knows that there is plenty of genocidal intent documented by south africa's ICJ documents and they acted upon that.

>The same way Palestine needs to stop firing rockets for a lasting peace to be possible, Israel will likely need to take a couple terrorist attacks on the chin once a feasible partner for peace in Palestine has been found.

You are confusing cause & effect, but you already know that. The rockets are being fired because Israel has brutally oppressed, murdered and ethnically cleansed Palestinians for 75+ years with near impunity. Give me a break with your soft zionist BS manipulation.

Re: SXSW Tried to Silence Critics with Bogus Trademark and Copyright Claims

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post #14

So the whole argument/protest is based on SXSW having “ ties to weapons manufacturers supplying Israel” but they don’t provide a single source or evidence for it?

Well luckily we live in 2024 where finding any amount of information is literally a few clicks away and there’s more than enough media coverage to stay informed. Someone that might be interested in finding more can… look it up.

The first results for “sxsw Palestine”:

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/3/13/artists-and-spe...

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/us/sxsw-army-sponsorship-...

https://www.vulture.com/article/sxsw-palestine-defense-indus...

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/texas/news/dozens-of-artists-boy...

https://pitchfork.com/news/sxsw-addresses-us-army-sponsorshi...

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2459328/more-than-80-participan...

https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2024/mar/06/sxsw-musicians...

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/13/us/sxsw-military-sponsors...

I don’t think it’s reasonable that every single post needs to reference what’s going on with sources to make their point. We’re all adults, we all have access to the internet and news outlets.

Re: SXSW Tried to Silence Critics with Bogus Trademark and Copyright Claims

#27
post #18

Reminder to those who might think to justify Israel's enthic cleansing campaign by citing the actions of Hamas: The last election in Gaza was in 2006, 18 years ago. They did not receive a majority of votes then, and the majority of Palestinians in Gaza today were too young or not even born to have voted in 2006. Collective punishment of the Gazan people for the actions of Hamas is simply reprehensible.

Israel does a lot worthy of condemnation, much of which is not justified by Hamas's actions. However it is important to recognise the support Hamas recieves from the civilian Palestinian population. Hamas isn't supported by the majority of Gazan citizens, however their actions on Oct 7 are. > Seventy-two percent of respondents said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel…

What's the point of using elections when we can just use your crystal ball to determine the true level of support a government has?

Re: SXSW Tried to Silence Critics with Bogus Trademark and Copyright Claims

#28
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>However it is important to recognise the support Hamas recieves from the civilian Palestinian population. Hamas isn't supported by the majority of Gazan citizens, however their actions on Oct 7 are. "2023 marks deadliest year on record for children in the occupied West Bank" - Save the Children, published: 18 SEPTEMBER 2023. >Of course some of this can likely be explained by fear of reprisal when speaking against Ha…

Hatred for your oppresors is rational. The desire to continue attacks that intentionally maximise civilian casualties as part of a war you are doomed to lose is not. If Palestine could end its attacks on Israel, almost all international support for Israel would dry up within 6 months. The symmetric attacks that justify the next are doomed to continue forever until both sides can hold back. Hamas will never be that pa…

> If Palestine could end its attacks on Israel, almost all international support for Israel would dry up within 6 months.

Public opinion polling shows that the lionshare of support for Israel in America, where it matters most, comes from Evangelical Christians. They support Israel because they believe it is necessary to reincarnate their Messiah. Their support is unconditional, not rational, so what you propose is nonsense.

Re: SXSW Tried to Silence Critics with Bogus Trademark and Copyright Claims

#29
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Israel does a lot worthy of condemnation, much of which is not justified by Hamas's actions. However it is important to recognise the support Hamas recieves from the civilian Palestinian population. Hamas isn't supported by the majority of Gazan citizens, however their actions on Oct 7 are. > Seventy-two percent of respondents said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel…

What's the point of using elections when we can just use your crystal ball to determine the true level of support a government has?

I'm not sure you've understood me.

Based on polling, Gazans don't support Hamas overall, just their actions on Oct 7.

I would never justify forgoing elections in favor of relying on polling, as polling is only indicative of broad sentiment and not precise enough.

Re: SXSW Tried to Silence Critics with Bogus Trademark and Copyright Claims

#30
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hatred for your oppresors is rational. The desire to continue attacks that intentionally maximise civilian casualties as part of a war you are doomed to lose is not. If Palestine could end its attacks on Israel, almost all international support for Israel would dry up within 6 months. The symmetric attacks that justify the next are doomed to continue forever until both sides can hold back. Hamas will never be that pa…

> If Palestine could end its attacks on Israel, almost all international support for Israel would dry up within 6 months. Public opinion polling shows that the lionshare of support for Israel in America, where it matters most, comes from Evangelical Christians. They support Israel because they believe it is necessary to reincarnate their Messiah. Their support is unconditional, not rational, so what you propose is no…

Religious justifications for support of Israel can only continue for as long as geopolitical justifications align with them.

As we've seen in Ukraine, thankfully conservative thought currently does not dominate the US's foreign policy.

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