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It's interesting how the bill can have such a heavily bipartisan approval yet there are so many opposing the decision in HN. That goes also with the general US anti-China consensus that has virtually no political lashback from domestic voters. So I would naturally assume from that then the plurality of the american voterbase would support this. So is this opposition really coming from the voterbase or elsewhere?
It is unclear who the backers in this case are. But when in doubt, follow the money
Wouldn't introducing actual privacy laws be better than censoring part of the internet? I doubt that American social media corporations hoard less data about it's users than Chinese. I am not defending TikTok here, because I believe it's a danger, but this new bill is equivalent to treating the symptoms instead of the cause.
The arguments I can think of for why you wouldn't support restricting social media owned by foreign adversaries: * You don't believe social media companies can become literal or de facto extensions of the countries they are located in. * You don't believe social media can influence people's beliefs and behaviors. * You believe the above, but think a government cannot (or should not) regulate companies operating in it…
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How many democratic governments have been overthrown with US assistance because it benefited oil or fruit companies?
>How many democratic governments have been overthrown with US assistance because it benefited oil or fruit companies? This century? None. The civilized world has progressed. Hopefully our Chinese and Russian friends can catch up some day.
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Biden said he would sign it.
And then presumably smacked down in the courts for an obvious 1A violation. Is there any legal reason they think surely this one is constitutional?
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Why shouldn’t Europeans do the same with US social networks then?
I'm under the impression they already do. There are lots of data collection rules that US companies have to follow. This I see as an alternative to outright banning. I'm sure Facebook, et. al. are audited by EU agencies to make sure they are in compliance. I think the reason for the outright ban is more due to it being a Chinese product. China isn't known to be very transparent.
Sadly European intelligence services actually want US to spy on their citizen in order to gain access to the data legally.
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The word "reciprocity" cannot hide the fact that two wrongs doesn't make a right. We think it is wrong of China to censor Facebook and Twitter because that is what authoritarian regimes that don't give a shit about free speech do. For exactly the same reason it is wrong of the US to ban TikTok. And this bill has nothing to do with balancing international trade. It's stated purpose is to restrict China's ability to in…
No, no, no. China and Russia are banning Facebook, Instagram and whatnot because they are evil dictatorships. The US is banning TikTok because China is evil dictatorship.