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Given the sensors in modern cars, would it be possible to detect submersion and roll down windows automatically?
Crack as in shatter? Possibly but I bet this would never be implemented because nobody wants the recall when suddenly every the car wash makes all of your expensive glass explode.
It's obviously a sad story but does anyone else feel that the Wall Street Journal running this story is a just a sad sign of a website losing its focus.
I think floods in lower manhatten are somewhat rare, but you could drive into the hudson
Why thank you, but I’ll just keep taking the Hoboken–33rd subway
The whole thing about laminated glass is interesting. Historically speaking, side and rear windows were made from tempered glass that would explode into many small, not-so-sharp fragments when damaged. Laminated glass does not do this; it breaks, but the inner layer(s) between the glass layers holds the window together. If you want to get through a car windshield, this is why you end up needing a saw rather than a ha…
> Due to new regulation that aims to reduce the number of drivers ejected from vehicles during crashes, some manufacturers have been switching to use laminated glass for side and rear windows. I'm surprised that getting ejected from the side or rear window is common enough to warrant such a change. There seems to be a lot of downsides - any emergency where a person (or pet) needs to be freed from a locked car quickly…
For a long time, it was my go-to rebuttal for the idiots who claimed that they'd rather be "thrown clear" in an accident: "I knew someone who was thrown clear. Then the car flipped over on top of him."
My current plan (obviously open windows if possible, don't drive into lakes, etc.) is to use the resqme spring-loaded glass breaker (my work gives them out as branded swag at conferences, but I gave away hundreds in Iraq/Afghanistan when I worked there too) or glowrhino carbide tip I keep with me. That doesn't work very well on laminated glass (but I'm often in a rental, so I don't know which cars have/don't have it)…
I’m dying to find out the circumstances that found you shooting out of a car
My current plan (obviously open windows if possible, don't drive into lakes, etc.) is to use the resqme spring-loaded glass breaker (my work gives them out as branded swag at conferences, but I gave away hundreds in Iraq/Afghanistan when I worked there too) or glowrhino carbide tip I keep with me. That doesn't work very well on laminated glass (but I'm often in a rental, so I don't know which cars have/don't have it)…
I’m dying to find out the circumstances that found you shooting out of a car
I also worked for ~6y in Iraq/Afghanistan but we never shot through glass in our own vehicles, did shoot rifles from open doors etc. on ranges but the times I was in trucks which were actually shooting "in anger" I was a passenger in the back in armored vehicle and the guy up top did all the work (and almost always it was warning shots, and most often frozen water bottles thrown at cars first to dissuade them)
(Basic firearms training is great, and the vehicle stuff is fun, but TBH the medical parts of these classes are far more useful; I wish more people would take trauma management classes. Outside of war zones, easy to go entire life without any "security" problems, but lots of car accidents, tool accidents, etc. where knwoing this stuff can save someone.)
My current plan (obviously open windows if possible, don't drive into lakes, etc.) is to use the resqme spring-loaded glass breaker (my work gives them out as branded swag at conferences, but I gave away hundreds in Iraq/Afghanistan when I worked there too) or glowrhino carbide tip I keep with me. That doesn't work very well on laminated glass (but I'm often in a rental, so I don't know which cars have/don't have it)…
What kind of gun do you carry in your car? Is this the same one you carry on your person?
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Crack as in shatter? Possibly but I bet this would never be implemented because nobody wants the recall when suddenly every the car wash makes all of your expensive glass explode.
Crack as in roll down a bit :D I edited my comment after realizing the potential confusion.
If the window opening mechanism is still working, better to let the driver & passengers make the decision on whether or not to open them and when. If the mechanism isn't working, then the question is moot.
The odds of (1) car driving into water * (2) person is incapacitated * (3) rescue is available and can access the car but can't open window have to be so low as to essentially never happen.
My current plan (obviously open windows if possible, don't drive into lakes, etc.) is to use the resqme spring-loaded glass breaker (my work gives them out as branded swag at conferences, but I gave away hundreds in Iraq/Afghanistan when I worked there too) or glowrhino carbide tip I keep with me. That doesn't work very well on laminated glass (but I'm often in a rental, so I don't know which cars have/don't have it)…
What kind of gun do you carry in your car? Is this the same one you carry on your person?
I don't advocate for off-body carry in general, but I'd expect it to be far more likely than you might think for there to be a handgun available to someone in a car.
... and yes, as the GP mentioned, firing it in that closed space would suck. It's going to take multiple rounds to weaken safety glass enough to get through it, and it's going to be loud. As a heuristic, I'd say you should assume that if you have to do that, you're trading your hearing for the rest of your life.
Firing a handgun inside a vehicle, even with both ear plugs and electronic muffs, is enough to make your ears ring.
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If you pay, you would just learn that you have 60 seconds before you just die then.
Or not. My country has a lot of water, so cars end up in canals somewhat regularly. Very often passengers are able to escape.
I live in Minnesota, the so-called "Land of 10,000 Lakes" (it's actually closer to 12,000). The only time I hear of cars going into a lake is when someone drives onto thin ice.
The whole thing about laminated glass is interesting. Historically speaking, side and rear windows were made from tempered glass that would explode into many small, not-so-sharp fragments when damaged. Laminated glass does not do this; it breaks, but the inner layer(s) between the glass layers holds the window together. If you want to get through a car windshield, this is why you end up needing a saw rather than a ha…
> Due to new regulation that aims to reduce the number of drivers ejected from vehicles during crashes, some manufacturers have been switching to use laminated glass for side and rear windows. I'm surprised that getting ejected from the side or rear window is common enough to warrant such a change. There seems to be a lot of downsides - any emergency where a person (or pet) needs to be freed from a locked car quickly…