House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner or ban the app

Post by WillPostForFood » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 3:36 PM UTC

pixelatedindex wrote: post #90

andiareso wrote: post #13

I'm a big proponent of free speech and the first amendment, but I agree with the reasonings for banning it or forcing US owners. China most definitely has their hands in the data that TikTok amasses and given its popularity it's not an insignificant risk to U.S. citizens. We all know how easy it is to manipulate users... aka Cambridge Analytica. It'll be interesting to see what legal challenges come up if the bill pa…

> China most definitely has their hands in the data that TikTok amasses and given its popularity it's not an insignificant risk to U.S. citizens. At least according to their website, it seems like US data does not leave US data warehouses: https://usds.tiktok.com/our-approach-to-keeping-u-s-data-sec... I don’t know the details of course but if China wants the data there are umpteen companies who engage in data broker…

Post by RobotToaster » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 3:36 PM UTC

Manuel_D wrote: post #144

throwaway237289 wrote: post #19

Don't be fooled by talk about security or privacy. This is simple Nation State realpolitik. TikTok is a propaganda threat controlled by a non-friendly state to the US. Any other way to look at this is naive.

Another way to look at it is the fact that China does not let American social media in its market. Why should America give China access to it's markets when that's not reciprocated?

Post by JumpCrisscross » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 3:37 PM UTC

LordKeren wrote: post #121

dauertewigkeit wrote: post #72

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Should the Iranians and the Chinese think in the same manner? Isn't this largely a question of how much you trust the official narrative of the local elites?

China has banned YouTube, twitch, wordpress, medium, etc.

Post by hawthornio » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 3:37 PM UTC

beezle wrote: post #54

2four2 wrote: post #9

As much as I don't care about tiktok going away, and acknowledge the privacy and security risks, there's something about banning a highly popular website that doesn't sit right with me. Is there precedent in the USA for anything like this?

A better middle ground at this stage could have been requiring TikTok to daily display to users (and require they confirm/accept) a message stating the indirect CPC ownership, the risk to their personal info, and the serious risk of seeing state directed disinformation campaigns. Most would still use TikTok but perhaps it might get drilled into their heads to actually question some things they see on it. Personally t…

Post by fullshark » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 3:37 PM UTC

basisword wrote: post #149

fullshark wrote: post #134

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I think it's both. You don't think it's possible TikTok usage data is being accumulated for prominent Americans and/or their children for the purpose of intelligence gathering? I'd actually be surprised if it wasn't happening.

...what 'intelligence' would they be gathering though? What actionable intelligence could be cleaned from someones TikTok viewing habits?