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House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner or ban the app

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Re: House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner or ban the app

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Should the Iranians and the Chinese think in the same manner? Isn't this largely a question of how much you trust the official narrative of the local elites?

> Should the Iranians and the Chinese think in the same manner?

Yes, and they do.

Re: House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner or ban the app

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I'm going to ask an intentionally stupid question. TikTok is largely just kids dancing and other innocuous videos, even if Bytedance is sucking up all that data and sending it back to the CCP, how does that constitute a national security threat?

Kids dancing, kids talking about how Osama bin Laden was right, propaganda about ongoing wars, ...

Re: House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner or ban the app

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Why shouldn’t Europeans do the same with US social networks then?

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> EU is fundamentally an American colony that has neither the economic power nor the political power to stand up to their colonizer in such a way

This is like arguing Europe was colonised by Britain when they helped the continent repel Napoleon.

Re: House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner or ban the app

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As much as I don't care about tiktok going away, and acknowledge the privacy and security risks, there's something about banning a highly popular website that doesn't sit right with me. Is there precedent in the USA for anything like this?

How about china … do not just look inside guys.

Re: House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner or ban the app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why shouldn’t Europeans do the same with US social networks then?

They should, and viewed in a certain light that is what the GPDR and DMA are trying to achieve— make room for native companies.

Not necessarily making room for native companies, as the Silicon Valley giants have adapted. But they enforce certain rights, for example privacy, and if US companies (not just social media) do not want to comply they are forced to leave the EU. Some newspaper websites are not visible from Europe for that reason.

Re: House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner or ban the app

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I'm a big proponent of free speech and the first amendment, but I agree with the reasonings for banning it or forcing US owners. China most definitely has their hands in the data that TikTok amasses and given its popularity it's not an insignificant risk to U.S. citizens. We all know how easy it is to manipulate users... aka Cambridge Analytica. It'll be interesting to see what legal challenges come up if the bill pa…

> China most definitely has their hands in the data that TikTok amasses and given its popularity it's not an insignificant risk to U.S. citizens.

At least according to their website, it seems like US data does not leave US data warehouses: https://usds.tiktok.com/our-approach-to-keeping-u-s-data-sec...

I don’t know the details of course but if China wants the data there are umpteen companies who engage in data brokerage and can get the info they want.

I’m not for or against this bill, but it seems like really the issue is data collection in general, which obviously the Congress has no interest in regulating.

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