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House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner or ban the app

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Re: House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner or ban the app

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It's amazing the lengths we'll go in the United States to avoid passing a comprehensive national privacy protections law.

A Chinese company isn't bound by US laws, so this is a necessary precursor to that. Edit: I stand corrected, they are bound by our laws, but it's orders of magnitude easier to enforce those laws on a company based in the US than a company based in China.

If it wants to operate in the US, yes it does. For the same reason that US companies are complying with EU GDPR/DMA laws.

Re: House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner or ban the app

#12

It's amazing the lengths we'll go in the United States to avoid passing a comprehensive national privacy protections law.

> to avoid passing a comprehensive national privacy protections law

It’s unclear there is support for that. I’ve worked on privacy issues. Virtually nobody calls in support of them.

This, on the other hand, is a national security bill. Every elected I know is being inundated from both sides.

Re: House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner or ban the app

#13
I'm a big proponent of free speech and the first amendment, but I agree with the reasonings for banning it or forcing US owners.

China most definitely has their hands in the data that TikTok amasses and given its popularity it's not an insignificant risk to U.S. citizens. We all know how easy it is to manipulate users... aka Cambridge Analytica.

It'll be interesting to see what legal challenges come up if the bill passes the senate because that is where the real discussion will occur. I ultimately see it being reversed, but I can also see a solid framework for future bills being illuminated via the courts.

Re: House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner or ban the app

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It's amazing the lengths we'll go in the United States to avoid passing a comprehensive national privacy protections law.

A Chinese company isn't bound by US laws, so this is a necessary precursor to that. Edit: I stand corrected, they are bound by our laws, but it's orders of magnitude easier to enforce those laws on a company based in the US than a company based in China.

Normally how this works is that national laws dictate what an app can do when operating in the nation's territory, and it's then up to the app owner to decide whether they want to do business in that nation's territory or not.

This is how EU rules apply to US tech companies. US rules for Chinese tech companies is no different in principle.

IMO however the problem isn't privacy, it's being able to stick a thumb on the algorithmic feed and control the information consumption of a slice of society. And TikTok isn't the only problem, it's broadly applicable across consumer tech.

Re: House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner or ban the app

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As much as I don't care about tiktok going away, and acknowledge the privacy and security risks, there's something about banning a highly popular website that doesn't sit right with me. Is there precedent in the USA for anything like this?

It's important to note this isn't banning TikTok. It's forcing the sale of it from a CCP-linked parent company. The precedent for this would be US pressuring sale of Grindr from Chinese ownership due to privacy concerns: https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/06/grindr-sold-china-national...
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