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Google restricts Gemini chatbot election answers
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Re: Google restricts Gemini chatbot election answers
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Yeah I had the same thought. Perhaps they are trying to regain some trustworthiness back.
Re: Google restricts Gemini chatbot election answers
#13> "Elections are due to be held in countries around the world this year including the US, UK and South Africa. [...] However, when a series of follow-up questions about Indian politics was put to Gemini it did supply more detailed responses about the country's major parties"
It's only guarding against questions about elections that have the attention of Google workers. I'm a bit surprised they can't do better than this and detect when somebody is asking about any election. Google surely has enough context about global events to do it.
> "Gemini also generated German soldiers from World War Two, incorrectly featuring a black man"
Certainly black men fighting for Germany was unusual, but it's a little bit disconcerting how the debunking of Gemini's racial bias goes too far and starts to erase actual history:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht_foreign_volunteers_a...
Re: Google restricts Gemini chatbot election answers
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you mean by this, do you mean actively and purposefully controlling elections? Do you have any sources on this?
Sure. Here is a deposition that goes fairly in-depth: https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Epstein%20Tes...
Some of this is plainly ridiculous, e.g. the last sentence of the following:
>On Election Day in 2018, the “Go Vote” reminder Google displayed on its home page gave one political party between 800,000 and 4.6 million more votes than it gave the other party. Those numbers might seem impossible, but I published my analysis in January 2019 (https://is.gd/WCdslm) (Epstein, 2019a), and it is quite conservative. Google’s data analysts presumably performed the same calculations I did before the company decided to post its prompt. In other words, Google’s “Go Vote” prompt was not a public service; it was a vote manipulation.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure. Here is a deposition that goes fairly in-depth: https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Epstein%20Tes...
Some of this is plainly ridiculous, e.g. the last sentence of the following: >On Election Day in 2018, the “Go Vote” reminder Google displayed on its home page gave one political party between 800,000 and 4.6 million more votes than it gave the other party. Those numbers might seem impossible, but I published my analysis in January 2019 ( https://is.gd/WCdslm ) (Epstein, 2019a), and it is quite conservative. Google’s…
Seems like just some gentle nudging sure. But do that at scale and it's certainly more effective than campaigning for a politician. If they did that in the open, then sure. But they don't.
Re: Google restricts Gemini chatbot election answers
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some of this is plainly ridiculous, e.g. the last sentence of the following: >On Election Day in 2018, the “Go Vote” reminder Google displayed on its home page gave one political party between 800,000 and 4.6 million more votes than it gave the other party. Those numbers might seem impossible, but I published my analysis in January 2019 ( https://is.gd/WCdslm ) (Epstein, 2019a), and it is quite conservative. Google’s…
Seems like just some gentle nudging sure. But do that at scale and it's certainly more effective than campaigning for a politician. If they did that in the open, then sure. But they don't.
There's no way for any person or organisation to address the entire voting population at once. So according to this guy, any time anyone encourages people to vote via any medium, they're engaging in election manipulation. This is exactly the sort of duff reasoning that finds non-existent conspiracies in every corner.
Re: Google restricts Gemini chatbot election answers
#17Well, Gemini can't even answer "Who caused more harm: Donald Trump, or Pol Pot?"
So I doubt it will produce any reliable election answers.
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like just some gentle nudging sure. But do that at scale and it's certainly more effective than campaigning for a politician. If they did that in the open, then sure. But they don't.
There's no way for any person or organisation to address the entire voting population at once. So according to this guy, any time anyone encourages people to vote via any medium, they're engaging in election manipulation. This is exactly the sort of duff reasoning that finds non-existent conspiracies in every corner.
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Re: Google restricts Gemini chatbot election answers
#19Well, Gemini can't even answer "Who caused more harm: Donald Trump, or Pol Pot?" So I doubt it will produce any reliable election answers.
What do you expect it to say?