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Tire wear and tear, which can also give off nasty particles, is also increased with the generally increased weight of EVs
30% higher tyre wear vs 90% less brake wear && 100% less cancer fumes
We need to go back to horseback riding. It's inevitable.
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Yep. Pretty much any kind of wear and tear part that is on an EV wears worse compared to a similarly powerful ICE. It's probably a wash or better because they don't use petroleum products for propulsion, but it is definitely a thing that needs to be considered. EV's are not some kind of panacea.
Except brakes, since they are rarely used due to regenerative braking. Tires, on the other hand, do wear faster than a lighter ICE car. My EV has almost 30,000 miles now and will need tires soon, but other than washer fluid, it has had no other consumables or wear items replaced. Though to be fair, the tires on my previous ICE vehicle only lasted about 30,000 miles before they needed to be replaced, OEM car tires are…
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EVs also don't really use brakes. They mainly use regen braking. 50k miles and on the same pads.
This is true about EVs, but it all just depends on how hard you are on your brakes. I routinely go 70k+ miles in ICE cars with the same brake pads. My mom on the other hand had to change hers about every 30k miles. YMMV.
Having said this, if you can go 70k+ miles with the same brake pads, you could likely go much further than that if the car had regenerative braking.
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EVs also don't really use brakes. They mainly use regen braking. 50k miles and on the same pads.
This is true about EVs, but it all just depends on how hard you are on your brakes. I routinely go 70k+ miles in ICE cars with the same brake pads. My mom on the other hand had to change hers about every 30k miles. YMMV.
They didn't have air conditioning, which isn't particularly strange in the PNW, but we did learn opening the windows for breeze was a very bad idea. The amount of tire and brake dust/soot that would pile up in a single afternoon was disturbing.
We were only in there temporarily for a few months, but boy did it underscore to me how much of an unappreciated health and pollution hazard freeways are.
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So? There would only be one "brake pad salesman" left, who would sell indestructible brake pads to car manufacturers, and all the others would go bust.
Right. It's not like they can form a cartel and collectively decide how long a brake pad should last, just like the incandescent light bulb cartel [1] of the early 20th century or the NAND flash memory cartel of the 21st century. Mate you're far too naive to believe what you're saying. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoebus_cartel
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And EVs make some problems worse, such as tire dust because they're heavier than an equivalent ICE car.
It's a shame this is used as an excuse to keep the heavy ICE SUVs and trucks. There are many EVs lighter than an average pickup truck. If people really cared about this, they'd demand train-based public transport instead (no tires! fully electric! self-driving too!), or at very least limits on car weight regardless of the engine.
This is especially a problem in enclosed spaces with limited ventilation: on parts of the London Underground, air pollution in the tunnels can be many times worse than on the streets above.
The problem of "brake dust" on human health and air quality has been known for a long time ( https://phys.org/news/2020-01-air-pollution-effects-immune-c... ) before that there were also issues with asbestos in brakes, but thankfully those haven't been used since the 90s as far as I know. This is the first I'm hearing about electrically charged particles though. The bottom line is that proximity to traffic is horribl…
And EVs make some problems worse, such as tire dust because they're heavier than an equivalent ICE car.
Some people of course drive their EVs aggressively and wear out the tires faster. But that's true if you have a muscle car too. Doing donuts in the parking lot just wears out your tires. And if you are in Germany and like seeing how fast your car can go regularly that also wears out your tires. The driving style is a much bigger factor than the weight of the car.
But otherwise the numbers are about the same for ice cars and evs in terms of frequency of needing tire replacements. For most people the novelty of abusing their tires wears of quickly.
And because most EVs use regenerative braking, the main issue with the brakes in EVs is that they are used so infrequently that they need to be replaced because of corrosion issues. You actually need to use the brakes once in a while to keep them clean and functioning apparently.
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I've never driven an EV. How do you approach stop signs and red lights other than braking? Is "engine braking" (regenerative braking?) strong enough to handle that big a fraction of slowing down in city traffic?
In city traffic, I rarely have to break. It's basically running the motor backwards (putting a load on it) and dumping the energy back into the batteries. It's limited by how fast the batteries can accept a change, so it doesn't always work when it's very cold out. I'll have to brake when a light catches me by surprise, and I brake when backing down my steep driveway. (The car does stop before getting into the street…