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Devin: AI Software Engineer
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#422Humans seek work that provides satisfaction and meaning in their life. For every technological advancement, artisans are the first to be made obsolete. Sure we have landfills full of unworn textiles, the market says its good, but overall, we keep destroying what allows humans to seek meaning. Our governments and society have made it clear, if you don't produce value, you don't deserve dignity. We have outsourced art…
> Humans seek work that provides satisfaction and meaning in their life.
> we keep destroying what allows humans to seek meaning.
> Our governments and society have made it clear, if you don't produce value, you don't deserve dignity.
Those points are really interesting to me, I think you're right and I've never looked at it that way before.
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#423- first AI developer
- raised $21 million
- uses google forms for the onboarding
ok
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#426As someone who works in this space ( https://pythagora.ai ), I welcome new entrants to this niche. Currently, mainstream AI usage in coding is at the level of assistants and glorified autocomplete. Which is great (I use GitHub Copilot daily), but for us working in the space it's obvious that the impact will be much larger. Besides us (Pythagora), there's also Sweep (mentioned by others in the comments) and GPT Engine…
Pythagora and similar frameworks are cool and very useful in the short term, but... Large-context models obviate the need for RAG and callgraph-augented generation. Why would would Agents need multiple turns and a framework like Pythagora in a (near-future) world with GPT4-level of capability and 10M+ token context?
> Why would would Agents need multiple turns
Because it's better. This was the insight behind AlphaGo, AlphaCode and AlphaGeometry. In Go, trying to get the entire solution in one forward pass required a 1000x larger neural net to achieve the same performance according to Noam Brown.
Intelligence requires iteration, introspection, planning, sub-task breakdown, and trial and error with feedback from reality (error messages, print statements). These meta reasoning structures (whether hard-coded or, ideally, learned) will move LLMs closer to how humans reason.
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#428Let's get realistic here - I just beat GPT-4 at tic tac toe, since it failed to block my 2/3 complete winning line ... Sure, one day we'll have AGI, and one day AGI will replace many jobs that can be done in front of a computer. In the meantime, SOTA AI appears to be an airline chatbot that gets the company sued for lying to the customer. This is just basic question answering, and it can't even get that right. Would…
Well, I'll bring the perspective of a recent college graduate from India.
Most students who started jobs in software aren't writing software for aeroplanes. They're writing crud apps, doing third-party API integrations or doing basic debugging.
I worry that although not some specialized software devs but a lot will still have problems due to stuff like this.
I'm not talking today, but say 2-3 years down the line, who will have an intern when you can get an AI intern that can perform as the top percentile and comes at $20 per month subscription?
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#429Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is this any different than the industrial revolution ushering in a new age, or for that matter any technology that creates huge efficiencies in labor? The truth is that the future is still very uncertain, and while the easiest thing to do is yell "they took er jerbs" from the top of your lungs, maybe think about how to effectively move forward into the future. There is a book called "Who Moved My Cheese?" and I w…
> the easiest thing to do is yell "they took er jerbs If the goal with AGI is to literally take all of our jobs (all jobs in all sectors) then what are you suggesting we can do instead?
The "goal" of AGI seems to be a pretty subjective thing, doesn't it? Idealistically, I could believe that the goal of AGI is to help humans build the future faster, and expand our footprint beyond what we currently believe is possible. Your pessimistic view of AGI is definitely valid, but it doesn't make it anything more than opinion, just like my view.
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#430Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is this any different than the industrial revolution ushering in a new age, or for that matter any technology that creates huge efficiencies in labor? The truth is that the future is still very uncertain, and while the easiest thing to do is yell "they took er jerbs" from the top of your lungs, maybe think about how to effectively move forward into the future. There is a book called "Who Moved My Cheese?" and I w…
The whole point of AGI is to be able to do everything a human can do, so this argument doesn't apply in the same way it did for mechanical automation.
You seem to be really dumbing down AGI, considering AGI will likely do everything a human can do, as well as many things a human cannot do, and all of those things will be done vastly faster and better.