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Re: Features lost across versions of macOS

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I would add: A useable System Preferences app. It's been renamed "Settings" and some idiot tried to make it look like iOS.

It's the absolute worst part of modern MacOS IMHO. As a Mac user measured in decades, it's the thing most likely to drive me back to Linux.

[edit: I am curious why this topic has been flagged]

Re: Features lost across versions of macOS

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I can't even get padded date formatting in MacOS these days (leading 0s) in GB/NZ locales without manually running command line things to update defaults, which means the recently-added support for fixed-width fonts in the Size and Date columns in Finder is somewhat pointless... The new MacOS "list" System Preferences has been a total downgrade in both use-ability and functionality IMO...

Oh that iPadOS System Preferences is garbage. They also need to stop burying stuff in nested modals in there, good god. Also, while on the topic of their desire to merge iPadOS with macOS, Stage Manager fits neither on the iPad (I own a Pro) nor on a desktop. Give it up, Apple.

Stage Manager is great!

OK, it’s objectively terrible compared to every other window manager I’ve used except one.

However, the one it beats is the default MacOS implementation of alt-tab and multiple desktops.

Re: Features lost across versions of macOS

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Apple's PMs removed a feature that was very useful on my MBP: system font size adjustment. Now I must wear my glasses all the time I use the computer. This is not comfortable or fun. I could increase the display pixel size, but then everything looks like garbage when I do wear my glasses.

Apple has lost its user-focus. Its products will only get worse and worse. Fortunately, this creates opportunity for new companies.

Re: Features lost across versions of macOS

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I do find my Macs increasingly difficulty to use, but like many things, Apple would consider quite a few of these features 'lost' as upgrades or part of the natural evolution of platforms. For example, getting rid of kexts is probably a good thing while the Settings app is straight garbage.

Re: Features lost across versions of macOS

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I actually like Stage Manager for certain workflows (on both my Mac and my iPad Pro). I don't leave it on most days, but it is actually something I'd miss if Apple removed it.

I've never used Stage Manager and barely remember its discussion during the hype videos from the mother ship. Do you mind briefly describing your certain workflows to see how an actual person is using it IRL?

I use it mostly in situations where I rapidly need to switch back and forth between 2 or 3 windows. For example developer documentation and an IDE, or Procreate and a photo I'm taking inspiration from.

I'll admit I used it a lot more before I upgraded to a dual monitor setup on my Mac. I still use it a ton on my iPad, since I only have one screen to work with.

Re: Features lost across versions of macOS

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I actually like Stage Manager for certain workflows (on both my Mac and my iPad Pro). I don't leave it on most days, but it is actually something I'd miss if Apple removed it.

Can you describe that workflow? For myself, real estate on an iPad Pro screen is a premium and apps are self-contained; on macOS, I want full control over size and position on all three axes. Another aside though, why can’t I scroll the app list vertically on iPadOS rather than be constrained to just 4 ‘recent apps’. The moment I have to reach for something not of those 4, I have to go to the exposé view and scroll h…

See my other reply for the workflows that I use Stage Manager with. I agree with you about the scrolling, that would be a nice improvement!

Re: Features lost across versions of macOS

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I would add: A useable System Preferences app. It's been renamed "Settings" and some idiot tried to make it look like iOS. It's the absolute worst part of modern MacOS IMHO. As a Mac user measured in decades, it's the thing most likely to drive me back to Linux. [edit: I am curious why this topic has been flagged]

Also a Mac user for nearly 2 decades. I don't care too much about most of the things mentioned in the article but I absolutely agree with you about the new System Prefs.

Re: Features lost across versions of macOS

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually like Stage Manager for certain workflows (on both my Mac and my iPad Pro). I don't leave it on most days, but it is actually something I'd miss if Apple removed it.

Can you describe that workflow? For myself, real estate on an iPad Pro screen is a premium and apps are self-contained; on macOS, I want full control over size and position on all three axes. Another aside though, why can’t I scroll the app list vertically on iPadOS rather than be constrained to just 4 ‘recent apps’. The moment I have to reach for something not of those 4, I have to go to the exposé view and scroll h…

On MacOS, it’s less buggy than the multiple workspace feature (green maximize button), and still sort of provides multiple desktops.

That reminds me: I should check to see if I can switch to Asahi Linux and literally any other window manager yet.

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