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The internet isn't dying, it's changing

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Re: The internet isn't dying, it's changing

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When people say "the internet is dying" (and really, they mean "the web", not "the internet"), they don't mean it will cease to exist. They mean that it's changing in a way that makes it increasingly worse for them.

"Dying" is an appropriate analogy because if the decline gets far enough, it may as well not exist to those people who are affected.

At least, this is what I mean when I say the web is dying. Most of it is already nonsense of no value to me and comes with ever-increasing security exposures. There's not a lot further it can go before there is no reason for me to use it at all anymore.

Re: The internet isn't dying, it's changing

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post #2

When people say "the internet is dying" (and really, they mean "the web", not "the internet"), they don't mean it will cease to exist. They mean that it's changing in a way that makes it increasingly worse for them. "Dying" is an appropriate analogy because if the decline gets far enough, it may as well not exist to those people who are affected. At least, this is what I mean when I say the web is dying. Most of it i…

"He's not dying, it's his body just rapidly decomposing and ceasing to support the so called homeostasis, yes, but calling it 'death' is a misnomer". No, sorry, if it looks like a rotten corpse, smells like a rotten corpse...

Re: The internet isn't dying, it's changing

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The internet is dying. All hail the new islandnet powered by AI.

In all seriousness, the open web is under siege too. Hosting choices dwindled. Cloud providers few. Dark web isn’t the answer. Decentralized isn’t either (the web is already decentralized). We need legislation that protects humans and not corporations. Common carrier. Fair privacy law. Following privacy laws. And ending the piracy of content for the sake of “greater good”.

If I go to jail for pirating movies. So too should authors of bots that scrape content for training their $29.99/mo Alpaca. Or the click farmers driving up engagement for $9.99/mo.

The Pirate Bay is illegal yet OpenAI can pirate the world and get $1b investment.

Re: The internet isn't dying, it's changing

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What an awful comment.

1. You can't say what everyone means when they say "it's dying," because you don't speak for everyone and not everyone means the same thing.

2. It isn't a ridiculous strawman, it's a cogent argument that the death of the current form of certain large communities does not mean new communities won't form in their wake.

3. "because this is HN"? Why do you come here if you have such a negative stance on the site?

Re: The internet isn't dying, it's changing

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The internet is dying. All hail the new islandnet powered by AI. In all seriousness, the open web is under siege too. Hosting choices dwindled. Cloud providers few. Dark web isn’t the answer. Decentralized isn’t either (the web is already decentralized). We need legislation that protects humans and not corporations . Common carrier. Fair privacy law. Following privacy laws. And ending the piracy of content for the sa…

>Decentralized isn’t either (the web is already decentralized).

Cloudflare.

EDIT: To those downvoting, you do realize how much of the internet relies on Cloudflare to connect server and client, right? Cloudflare is a bigger gatekeeper than Microsoft, Google, Apple, Amazon, and Facebook combined.

Re: The internet isn't dying, it's changing

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post #2

When people say "the internet is dying" (and really, they mean "the web", not "the internet"), they don't mean it will cease to exist. They mean that it's changing in a way that makes it increasingly worse for them. "Dying" is an appropriate analogy because if the decline gets far enough, it may as well not exist to those people who are affected. At least, this is what I mean when I say the web is dying. Most of it i…

When people say the Internet is dying, they typically don't even mean the Web, they mean one site on the Web that matters to them.

The article us a rebuttal to [1] where someone is complaining that Reddit is going public. For some reason this strategy, or indeed the need for reddit to earn revenue, seems to be shocking to the author.

To anyone with half a brain, and has seen the internet since it was an infant in the 90s, its obvious the internet is not dying, it's "growing up". It's waaaay better now than it has ever been, and a pale shadow of examples it will become.

Yes we can pause to reminisce, yes we can fondly remember the yesteryears of carefree childhood, we can fondly really the lazy days of summer. All while forgetting the sound a modem makes when connecting.

[1] https://www.wheresyoured.at/are-we-watching-the-internet-die...

Re: The internet isn't dying, it's changing

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> "Dying" is an appropriate analogy because if the decline gets far enough, it may as well not exist to those people who are affected.

For how many people does the web actually cease to exist? Many people have seen social media as a dim light for many years now, yet most of the companies involved still exist. They may not be growing any more (or they may not be growing at the same pace), but that had to happen anyway. The world's population is finite. Only a certain percentage will be interested in a particular service. New competitors emerge. These companies had to plateau eventually and will likely decline eventually (as many have before them). No individual company, or even a generation of companies, can be regarded as representative of an overall trend.

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