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Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer

#391
Surprised how calm and underwhelmed comments are.

Sure it is no senior architect but the trajectory is insane. Wasn’t that long ago that LLMs barely managed coherent poems. Now it’s troubleshooting code problems on its own?

Sure it’s just a gpt4 wrapper but that implies the same can be done with gpt5 and six etc.

Project it forward and that does actually become non trivial

Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Buying handcrafted artisan stuff is a luxury few can afford. I come from a poor family and I was always grateful for mass produced mediocre stuff that we could actually afford.

Sure but the same optimizations that bring the costs down, bring down the average laborers value. I'm not saying that things were sunshine and rainbows pre-industrialization, but there's some level of analysis to be done on the durability and value of a handcrafted piece of clothing, the care that goes into maintaining it, the value of a local economy, and the other side where you're forced to buy cheap items that de…

> bring down the average laborers value.

Labor has never been to afford so much luxury as the modern day.

Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer

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I must say, I'm not HUGELY impressed with a website that lets me, unauthenticated, upload files of an arbitrary size. Just posted a 500mb dmg file to their server. If anyone is practicing for their B1 Dutch exam, feel free to use this link to get the practice paper. https://usacognition--serve-s3-files.modal.run/attachments/4...

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Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer

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As a developer but also product person, I keep trying to use AI to code for me. I keep failing, because of context length, because of shit output from the model, because of lack of any kind of architecture etc etc etc. I'm probably dumb as hell, because I just can't get it to do anything remotely useful, more than helping me with leetcode. Just yesterday I tried to feed it a simple HTML page to extract a selector, I…

Ditto. I started out excited about LLMs and eager to use them everywhere, but have become steadily disillusioned as I have tried to apply them to daily tasks, and seen others try and fail in the same way. Honestly, LLMs can't even get language right. They produce generic, amateurish copy that reads like it's written by committee. GPT can't perform to the level of a middle market copywriter or content marketer. I am c…

> They produce generic, amateurish copy that reads like it's written by committee.

In some circles, that's actually a wonderful achievement. :p

Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer

#396

This is where inference speed starts to matter. H100 might be cheaper per inference than Groq but cutting down the wait time from 1 minute to 10 seconds could be a big deal.

Have you tried Groq? We did a few days testing on replacing gpt4-turbo with it and, while incredibly fast, the results were horrible, even after a lot of specific prompt engineering. So many hallucinations and such. Our products all have to do with strict generation and software quality; it basically has to fill in the blanks but it was incredibly hit or miss. Some results came in within a second so even a few iterat…

Groq is hardware not software... It's like saying the H100 hallucinated.

Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer

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post #390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the horse carriage drivers had similar lines of thoughts when they saw first gen automobiles.

Your point being? The horses were replaced alright, carriage drivers are thriving ever since.

Lmao what are you talking/coping about? What happened to carriage drivers is pretty well-documented. Maybe ask one of these AI chatbots, they will summarize it for you.

Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer

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> What will be left? Where will we be? Just stranded without dignity or purpose, left to rot when we no longer produce value. Nobody stops you from paying $1000 for a shirt made by artisans right now. Do you want to? > Our governments and society have made it clear, if you don't produce value, you don't deserve dignity. It's not somebody else who decided that. It's you.

> Nobody stops you from paying $1000 for a shirt made by artisans right now. Do you want to? If you don't do then your point is invalid. /s. Look, you dont have to pay $1000 for a shirt made by an artisan to get a quality shirt. It can be a bit more expensive, but much cheaper than that. And this can be true while being fair/reasonable to the artisan and also to the person acquiring it. > It's not somebody else who d…

> > Nobody stops you from paying $1000 for a shirt made by artisans right now. Do you want to?

> If you don't do then your point is invalid. /s.

> Look, you dont have to pay $1000 for a shirt made by an artisan to get a quality shirt. It can be a bit more expensive, but much cheaper than that. And this can be true while being fair/reasonable to the artisan and also to the person acquiring it.

In the ideal case, this would be true: Following classical economics, there would be some predictable demand left as you go up the price curve, assuming genuine quality & labour.

However, this doesn't seem to be the case. The existence of low-cost mass-produced options leads to the satiation of demand above that spot of the curve. There still exists demand, but it's weirdly lower than predicted. People can shop down the price curve, but relatively fewer would do the opposite.

Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer

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post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Buying handcrafted artisan stuff is a luxury few can afford. I come from a poor family and I was always grateful for mass produced mediocre stuff that we could actually afford.

Sure but the same optimizations that bring the costs down, bring down the average laborers value. I'm not saying that things were sunshine and rainbows pre-industrialization, but there's some level of analysis to be done on the durability and value of a handcrafted piece of clothing, the care that goes into maintaining it, the value of a local economy, and the other side where you're forced to buy cheap items that de…

Those optimizations increase the value of labor by greatly increasing the amount of output per unit of labor. Do you understand how much wealthier the modern worker is than the pre Industrial Revolution peasant?
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