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Time for TikTok to cut its ties to China

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Re: Time for TikTok to cut its ties to China

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Post by paulryanrogers »

hypeit wrote: post #2

I want to use TikTok as it exists today. Why should that right be taken away from me by the US government? This is going to have major political backlash from the millions of people happy with TikTok if they manage to pass it.

National security, hysteria, anything in between. The government is the people. We can agree to deny ourselves anything for any reason.

From what I've read I'd agree that TikTok should be more independent than it is from its current parent company. And other measures too, like some time limits on users under 18.

Re: Time for TikTok to cut its ties to China

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Post by otoburb »

hypeit wrote: post #2

I want to use TikTok as it exists today. Why should that right be taken away from me by the US government? This is going to have major political backlash from the millions of people happy with TikTok if they manage to pass it.

How will this discontent manifest itself? It feels like voter apathy is widespread[1], so it would be amazing to me if any politican feels that this is the issue that causes TikTok voters to mobilize no matter what side of the aisle you're on.

[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/11/01/turnout-i...

Re: Time for TikTok to cut its ties to China

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Post by pokepim »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #3
hypeit wrote: post #2

I want to use TikTok as it exists today. Why should that right be taken away from me by the US government? This is going to have major political backlash from the millions of people happy with TikTok if they manage to pass it.

National security, hysteria, anything in between. The government is the people. We can agree to deny ourselves anything for any reason. From what I've read I'd agree that TikTok should be more independent than it is from its current parent company. And other measures too, like some time limits on users under 18.

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Re: Time for TikTok to cut its ties to China

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Post by Spivak »

https://newsroom.tiktok.com/en-us/statement-on-tiktoks-conte...

Is TikTok just straight up lying in the their official press release or is this just hysteria by our legislators?

> We store all TikTok US user data in the United States, with backup redundancy in Singapore. Our data centers are located entirely outside of China, and none of our data is subject to Chinese law.

> Let us be very clear: TikTok does not remove content based on sensitivities related to China. We have never been asked by the Chinese government to remove any content and we would not do so if asked. Period.

> Our US moderation team, which is led out of California, reviews content for adherence to our US policies – just like other US companies in our space. We are not influenced by any foreign government, including the Chinese government.

Like TikTok is bending over backwards here https://usds.tiktok.com/usds-about/ Facebook refused to do something similar to this for the EU because of the NSA and they're our allies! Is there literally anything they could say that would make people believe that being owned by a Chinese company is not the same as being puppeted by the CCP?

Re: Time for TikTok to cut its ties to China

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Post by dontreact »

Spivak wrote: post #7

https://newsroom.tiktok.com/en-us/statement-on-tiktoks-conte... Is TikTok just straight up lying in the their official press release or is this just hysteria by our legislators? > We store all TikTok US user data in the United States, with backup redundancy in Singapore. Our data centers are located entirely outside of China, and none of our data is subject to Chinese law. > Let us be very clear: TikTok does not remo…

None of this is inconsistent with changing the level of amplification of certain topics in concordance with the preferences of the CCP, which is what the evidence appears to point to.

Note the key word “removal”

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