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Devin: AI Software Engineer
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Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer
#32There is no way this is going to make it so that "engineers can focus on more interesting problems and engineering teams can strive for more ambitious goals." Instead it will mean that bosses can fire 75-90% of the (very expensive) engineers, with the ones who remain left to prompt the AI and clean up any mistakes/misunderstandings. I guess this is the future. We've coded ourselves out of a job. People are smiling an…
The answer is not hating AI, it’s implementing UBI when AI produces x10 more wealth and resources for humanity. That’s a people problem, not an AI problem.
And furthermore, we’re not even remotely close to that. I guarantee this product actually sucks and is totally useless in practice. No offense, the tech is just not there yet. Saying this as someone at the cutting edge of AI and software development.
Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer
#33Prepare for a lot of copycat companies. Hey Devin, copy this company's software.
So basically taking money away as an obstacle? It’s not illegal to copy an application. Look at Instagram’s stories compared to Snapchat.
The only difference is that there might be a little less profit incentive now. Perhaps we’ll get some interesting ideas from people who never would have been able to create them.
Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
If an AI was truly capable of replacing engineers en mass, the upside would hugely outweigh the downside. Engineering muscle will be limited by chips instead of brains. Injecting millions of AI “engineers” into any economy would be a massive boon. Many of us would be out of work, but if we can redistribute the AI-generated surplus, this will still be a net-win for us all. I think the top engineers will still be able…
>if we can redistribute the AI-generated surplus, this will still be a net-win for us all. We can't.
Like, due to lack of political willpower? Or do you see some fundamental limitation of, say, an automation tax?
Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer
#35There is no way this is going to make it so that "engineers can focus on more interesting problems and engineering teams can strive for more ambitious goals." Instead it will mean that bosses can fire 75-90% of the (very expensive) engineers, with the ones who remain left to prompt the AI and clean up any mistakes/misunderstandings. I guess this is the future. We've coded ourselves out of a job. People are smiling an…
If AI can't make AI improvements that humans can, then it shouldn't be considered a very capable coder.
Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer
#36There is no way this is going to make it so that "engineers can focus on more interesting problems and engineering teams can strive for more ambitious goals." Instead it will mean that bosses can fire 75-90% of the (very expensive) engineers, with the ones who remain left to prompt the AI and clean up any mistakes/misunderstandings. I guess this is the future. We've coded ourselves out of a job. People are smiling an…
> Instead it will mean that bosses can fire 75-90% of the (very expensive) engineers, with the ones who remain left to prompt the AI and clean up any mistakes/misunderstandings.
We continually hear anxiety about technology leading to mass unemployment and it keeps not happening. Instead, workers tend to have higher productivity, which drives higher wages.
Technological advancements transformed agriculture from being 75% of the workforce to being less than 5% of the workforce over the last 200 years and instead of mass unemployment, everyone found other ways to add value to society and it has been an absolute win, with higher standards of living.
(https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Percent-of-the-Labor-For...)
Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
>if we can redistribute the AI-generated surplus, this will still be a net-win for us all. We can't.
Like, due to lack of political willpower? Or do you see some fundamental limitation of, say, an automation tax?
Arguably we haven't seen redistribution of wealth due to past automation advances, so it seems unreasonable to believe it will happen now. As automation has improved in the last decades especially, wealth has disproportionately moved upwards.
Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer
#38Although the demos are impressive, they seem short and limited in scope which makes me wonder how well this will work outside of these planned cases. Can it do software architecture at all? Is it still essentially just regurgitating solutions? How often will the solution only be 90% correct, which is 100% not good enough? Even so, I realize the demos are still broad in scope and the results are incredible. Imagine se…
There is a similar product called Sweep AI thst I tried. For extremely simple things "like add a button to the page that prints hello" it was very good. I then asked it to do something more complex, which was to render my d3.js graph vertically rather than horizontally, and it tried to redefine constant variables (it just added a new modified code block without deleting the old one), put function clauses in places that were not synctactic. After I manually fixed those, the functionality just didnt work.
Re: Devin: AI Software Engineer
#39This is just nice packaging on top of current models. Very nicely done but still not a giant leap forward from what is already here